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Old 11-22-11, 05:46 PM   #1
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Girl, 4, breaks leg in collision with cyclist

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For those of you who are overseas, it is currently getting dark between 16:00 and 16:30 in the UK ATM

Girl, 4, breaks leg in collision with cyclist

I personally do not have an issue with cycling on the pavement - and at Southbourne Grove I can understand why someone would want to - it is a very busy stretch of road, but also very narrow, due to parked cars in some places it is only wide enough for 1 lane of traffic.

It is however, a busy high street with a lot of foot-fall too.

My personal stance is, if you must or prefer to cycle on the pavement - then you do so at a sedentary pace, if you want to cycle fast you should be in the road. End of.

As to the lack of lights, well I am afraid that is un-excusable.

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Old 11-22-11, 05:52 PM   #2
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Like you I don't see any specific reason why cycling on the pavement is inherently bad in and of itself, as long as it is done with due consideration for pedestrians. As you say, that means moving at walking pace when pedestrians are about (or may reasonably be expected to be about).

I don't see why a competent cyclist shouldn't in the road on Southbourne Grove. I used to frequent that area and it is a busy road but no busier than many other roads. If cyclists can manage on Oxford Street in London I don't see why they can't manage on a moderately busy road in the suburbs of Bournemouth.

So I guess I agree, a cyclist riding at speed after dark on the pavement with no lights should be severely punished. A 30 fine doesn't begin to do justice to a situation like this.
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Old 11-22-11, 06:25 PM   #4
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Kids are tough. I broke my leg when I was 7, twisted my foot entirely around 360 degrees and it was good again after about 2 weeks in a cast. I would hate to imagine how long it would take me to heal from something like that today.
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As the article said, "antisocial" to be sure. Hope the girl is doing ok.

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The only other element at issue, is the Southeborne Grove is cobblestone. If a cyclist isn't adept at riding regularly on cobblestone there, they need to start.
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Kids are tough. I broke my leg when I was 7, twisted my foot entirely around 360 degrees and it was good again after about 2 weeks in a cast. I would hate to imagine how long it would take me to heal from something like that today.
Today with 'conveyor belt' medicine, they would probably expect you to be healed in less than a week. Instead of the standard six weeks.
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The only other element at issue, is the Southeborne Grove is cobblestone. If a cyclist isn't adept at riding regularly on cobblestone there, they need to start.
We have very few cobblestone roads in this country, mainly in historic areas. I would risk saying that Bournemouth is 99.999999999999% tarmac or equivalent. Certainly all major roads and walkways.
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The only other element at issue, is the Southeborne Grove is cobblestone. If a cyclist isn't adept at riding regularly on cobblestone there, they need to start.
Huh? Do you mean the path or the road? The road looks on Google Maps to be one of the main roads through there, certainly if my memory serves me it's a road I used to go through regularly and it never used to be cobblestone.

If you mean the path it's just one more reason why a cyclist should be on the road and not the path.
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Hoping for a quick recovery for the kid, and that they catch the coward who ran her down. He ought to do significant prison time for this, especially since he rode off instead of stopping to help.
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The hospital bills- and the possibility that they could run into the tens of thousands of dollars, even for children, is a serious issue. Many people's deductibles mean that they have to pay everything up to some threshold. It can be very high. How will people both pay rent, and pay those bills?

Most homeless people end up homeless because some health-related thing like that throws them into a very difficult situation.

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Most homeless families might be due to health-related things, but most homeless people are there because of drugs, alcoholism or are runaways.
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The hospital bills- and the possibility that they could run into the tens of thousands of dollars, even for children, is a serious issue. Many people's deductibles mean that they have to pay everything up to some threshold. It can be very high. How will people both pay rent, and pay those bills?

Most homeless people end up homeless because some health-related thing like that throws them into a very difficult situation.
Breaking a leg in the UK isn't going to put the family on the streets. Different health system than the US.
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