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    Even Cagers Fear Cell Addicted JAMs

    From the L.A. Times:
    California motorists who use cellphones are considered a bigger danger to fellow travelers than those who speed or drive aggressively, a new survey has found.

    Nearly 40% of 1,801 motorists interviewed said their most pressing safety concern was other drivers who text or talk on their cellphones, according to a second annual survey from the state Office of Traffic Safety.
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    About time motorist started learning.

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    Cell phones should be engineered to not work while in motion. It will stop some legitimate uses. But mankind insists on behaving like an ape without the ability to make sound decisions...
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    Agree 100%, I think that if the heavier cell phone using motorists put their phones away during a commute, they'd find that they'd actually get where they are going in far less time, delay fellow commuters. How many of these cell phone calls are just superfluous & meaningless conversations ? It only takes a few of them to grind traffic to a halt.

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    I wonder how many among that 40 percent never use cell phones themselves when they're behind the wheel.

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    This would be news to who exactly, I'm wondering .....

    Boneheaded moves by drivers jabbing on their cellphones have been there for all to see since the early days. Certainly the problem was not eliminated by the legislators.

    Still, the more publicity cellphone abuse gets the better I suppose. At least now these people are scofflaws and a few of them get hit with a fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pobble.808 View Post
    I wonder how many among that 40 percent never use cell phones themselves when they're behind the wheel.
    Also, Of the nearly 60%, isn't that still a majority that are still JAMs who use a cell-phone while they are behind the wheel.

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    What are JAMs?

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    The survey said most pressing safety concern. I'm sure others responded with equally valuable safety concerns like, oh say... drunk drivers, road ragers, etc.

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    I think I'm the last man alive without a cellular telephone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by venturi95 View Post
    What are JAMs?
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    I'm surprised that only 40% feel that way. According to research, it's even more dangerous than drunk driving, and I can well believe that. The other day I saw the most incredible driving-while-talking-on-cellphone: a woman, slowly approaching a green light, and stopping. When it turned red, she started driving, and only stopped when well past the crosswalk, looking most surprised. As I crossed in front of her, I first made the phone hand sign, and then the no-no hand sign.One can only hope it made her think a bit.

    I see it very often, and it's obvious from the maneuvres the idiots make, that theyre extremely distracted.

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    I learnt another good handsign from someone here on BF

    First the phone sign at the side of your head... followed by, well, the same sign moving up towards your... saddle!

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    Just me, but when I drive my car, I rarely if ever answer the phone. I've missed quite a few calls and/but call back later. 100% of those calls were unimportant, just somebody calling to chit chat about something that could've and did wait for a response as much as 45 minutes later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagen2456 View Post
    I'm surprised that only 40% feel that way. According to research, it's even more dangerous than drunk driving, and I can well believe that.
    I have never noticed a drunk driver that was anywhere near as impaired as someone on the phone. I have seen some really crazy stunts performed by people on the phone. I've never seen an accident caused by someone on the phone, but I'm afraid that's mostly just luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagen2456 View Post
    I'm surprised that only 40% feel that way.
    I think the respondents were limited to the single worst behavior. I'm sure far more than 40% see talking on cell phones and texting as significant problems, even those who do it. In fact, I was at a bus stop in Seattle a few weeks ago when this topic came up among those of us who were waiting. Two of the five other people admitted to texting while driving even though they both described it as dangerous and wrong. They both rationalized that they only do it on low-traffic roads when there are no other cars nearby. Those would be the same roads most cyclists will seek out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standalone View Post
    I think I'm the last man alive without a cellular telephone.
    Almost. I'm still (and have always been) cell free. Let's see who can hold out longer!

    Quote Originally Posted by fuji86 View Post
    How many of these cell phone calls are just superfluous & meaningless conversations ?
    Most all. Thanks to the cell, many have lost the ability to plan ahead.
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    Cell phones are already illegal to use while driving in Europe, and I'm pretty sure in Scandinavia too.

    I wonder how long it will be before they make it a law in the US.

    When I see a driver either not paying attention in traffic, or doing something crazy...it always seems to be someone on the dang phone.

    Hang up and drive please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silmarillion View Post
    Cell phones are already illegal to use while driving in Europe, and I'm pretty sure in Scandinavia too.

    I wonder how long it will be before they make it a law in the US.

    When I see a driver either not paying attention in traffic, or doing something crazy...it always seems to be someone on the dang phone.

    Hang up and drive please.

    Even though they are illegal to use while driving, both in the Europe, and most of the U.S., there are those that still do it. Several members of my family switched from holding their cell phone while driving, to only getting the hands-free device where the phone can sit in a cradle while they are driving. Just so they can still talk. One family member is getting the latest IPhone, just so they can sync it with their laptop. I told them about the SAR rating of the phone, but they don't care. Sooner or later, they are going to come up with some excuse to use it will they are driving. Another family member already has one of those stupid Bluetooth devices that look like an oversized teardrop that they use while driving.

    They don't care. It is more important to them, to be technologically connected, instead of safe.
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    When they were banned from being used whilst driving in Queensland, Australia the government had a study that showed that talking on the phone whilst driving was equivalent of having a blood alcohol content of 0.08 and our drink drive limit is 0.05.


    I saw another UK show which had an experiment where a South African guy believed he was super good at multi-tasking and could talk on the phone and drive at the same time. He couldn’t
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    Quote Originally Posted by silmarillion View Post
    Cell phones are already illegal to use while driving in Europe, and I'm pretty sure in Scandinavia too.
    Certainly is in Denmark. Doesn't keep people from doing in, anyway. But the law only concerns hand held cell phones, though the latest study I've seen suggests that the ones that are "cradled" are almost equally distracting. I think that accidents caused by cell phoning while driving should be highlighted a lot more. Goes for cyclists too, actually, at least here in Copenhagen.

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    Yeah, unfortunately enforcement doesn't really kick in unless you are in an accident and they can prove you were on the phone. So weighing the risks, people just do it anyway.

    I think that cradling the phone may be some what of an *improvement* I would agree that it's still a distraction. Some people are very good at multi-tasking, and may be able to handle talking on the phone while driving. But there is a majority who can't drive well if they weren't distracted. Throw in a cell phone and they become dangerous to the public.

    I have begun to notice much more now just how much people talk on the phone while driving. If I'm behind the wheel, I will not answer my phone. I just call them back when I get to my destination. I really don't like talking on the phone while driving, so I don't do it. Personal habit choice I guess. If one of my kids is with me, I might tell them to make the call for me...

    What we need are communicators like thee ones that they have in Star Trek. (Probably not too far from that becoming a reality..) Something you could just wear on your shirt. You tap it, request the person you wish to speak to and speak and hear just like someone was sitting beside you.
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    News Flash: One of my friends here was driving on a main thoroughfair and just got in an accident with a "college chick yakin' on a cell phone." She made an illegal left turn in front of him (no green arrow at her light), over $7,000 in damge to his Xb. No witnesses. She had no insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silmarillion View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately enforcement doesn't really kick in unless you are in an accident and they can prove you were on the phone. So weighing the risks, people just do it anyway.

    I think that cradling the phone may be some what of an *improvement* I would agree that it's still a distraction. Some people are very good at multi-tasking, and may be able to handle talking on the phone while driving. But there is a majority who can't drive well if they weren't distracted. Throw in a cell phone and they become dangerous to the public.

    I have begun to notice much more now just how much people talk on the phone while driving. If I'm behind the wheel, I will not answer my phone. I just call them back when I get to my destination. I really don't like talking on the phone while driving, so I don't do it. Personal habit choice I guess. If one of my kids is with me, I might tell them to make the call for me...

    What we need are communicators like thee ones that they have in Star Trek. (Probably not too far from that becoming a reality..) Something you could just wear on your shirt. You tap it, request the person you wish to speak to and speak and hear just like someone was sitting beside you.
    The hands free phones are nearly like that ST communicator when coupled with voice dialing, HOWEVER... it is the conversation itself with someone outside of the car and unaware of the driving situation that is the distraction that causes problems. Even conversations in the car with a passenger can be distracting... although usually the passenger sees the same traffic situation and reacts with the driver.

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