It's about being in control of your vehicle, not yellow lights.......
Originally Posted by sudo bike
Under the Motor Vehicle Code, a driver can legally enter an intersection if the vehicle's front tires touch the limit line or pedestrian crosswalk line while a signal is still yellow, according to Sgt. Bill Languemi, a code instructor at the California Highway Patrol.
"It is cheating, but it is within the law," he said.
In many cases, these limit lines and pedestrian crosswalk lines are positioned well back from the actual intersection, which is typically defined as the imaginary box formed by the curb lines of the road. I measured the intersection in front of my office, which is across from Los Angeles City Hall, and found the limit lines were 18 feet behind the actual intersection.
Thus, a car can seem to fly through an intersection on a red light and still be legal, so long as the tires hit the limit line on yellow. What's more, the vehicle code gives that car legal possession of the intersection, and cars with the lateral green light must wait for the intersection to clear before entering.
V C Section 21950 Right of Way at Crosswalks
Right-of-Way at Crosswalks
21950. (a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter.
(b) This section does not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian may unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk.
(c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian within any marked or unmarked crosswalk shall exercise all due care and shall reduce the speed of the vehicle or take any other action relating to the operation of the vehicle as necessary to safeguard the safety of the pedestrian.
(d) Subdivision (b) does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.
Again, it seems obvious to me that as cyclists we have
V C Section 21954 Pedestrians Outside Crosswalks
Pedestrians Outside Crosswalks
21954. (a) Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of a vehicle from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway.
wherever we encounter them, and I believe we are legally accountable under the code if we do not.
duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway