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Old 01-08-05, 06:02 PM   #1
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Does anyone ride like this in traffic?

http://www.digave.com/videos/red-web.mpg

Most of it is video of people ridding in traffic.

This wouldn't even be possible with a recumbent I don't think but the way they rode in traffic I don't think was good at all. Sure they moved faster then everyone else but they came close to a lot of people walking in my opinion, etc.
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Well, I could ride like that, but I most certainly wouldn't!

Coming close to people walking is just one reason. Bigger problems were running red lights, riding on the wrong side of the road, riding in door zones, passing with insufficient space for safety, passing on the right, etc. etc.

This is an exhilarating video, but not an example of vehicular cycling by any means. Vehicular cycling involves communication and cooperation with motorists. These guys ride as if there are traveling in a separate dimension from the motorists, which works to an extent. But sooner or later something goes wrong and the results could be dire and often fatal.

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Old 01-08-05, 07:09 PM   #3
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That is so cool!
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Well, I could ride like that, but I most certainly wouldn't!

Coming close to people walking is just one reason. Bigger problems were running red lights, riding on the wrong side of the road, riding in door zones, passing with insufficient space for safety, passing on the right, etc. etc.

This is an exhilarating video, but not an example of vehicular cycling by any means. Vehicular cycling involves communication and cooperation with motorists. These guys ride as if there are traveling in a separate dimension from the motorists, which works to an extent. But sooner or later something goes wrong and the results could be dire and often fatal.

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Agree. Plus they couldn't do that on all bikes. Like recumbents or even a bike with a trailer like the Burley Nomad.

Does anyone go inbetween cars, buses, trucks, etc like that though ?
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yes there would be no chance of me doing that. but that was pritty cool. lucky to get past some of those pedestrians!!
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No, it's not an example of vehicular cycling. It's an example of an alley cat, an illegal road race run mostly by messengers or in the style of messengers.

I'd like to have those skills, even if I didn't ride like that every day.
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Old 01-08-05, 08:52 PM   #8
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Well, I could ride like that, but I most certainly wouldn't!
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Hmmph--me neither. But only because I'm too fat to fit between those buses!
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I'd like to have those skills, even if I didn't ride like that every day.

me too... but i think a lot of it has to do with how much guts you have.. and you need the mentality of that "those cars wont hit you, no matter what"
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Reminds me of a video game. Pretty dangerous game, though. I found myself wringing my hands while watching it!

OK, a couple of times I have ridden very fast like that, between cars, and through lights racing another cyclist in heavy traffic in Laguna Beach. It helps to yell at pedestrians to get out of the way. It was exciting, but I was lucky I didn't crash. Afterward I felt kind of stupid for doing it.

On the other hand, I think there is just a little bit of that spirit in everyone who rides a bike.
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Man, my jaw was on the floor! Way too kewl video. This should be entered into the http://www.bicyclefilmfestival.com
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Amen, Brother biker.
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First of all, this is New York City, baby... Second, these guys are hard-core bike messengers (time's money, baby). They're pretty good at handling their bikes... It's not as much as riding aggressive as being able to see around yourself, almost like having a 'sixth sense' and get in synch with the surrounding traffic... Third, this was a one-time 'race' event...

Is it safe??? Not for everyone...

Come to live to NYC, you'll understand...

PS: And yeah, it was posted like 1000x times, but I still enjoy seeing it...
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First of all, this is New York City, baby... Second, these guys are hard-core bike messengers (time's money, baby). They're pretty good at handling their bikes... It's not as much as riding aggressive as being able to see around yourself, almost like having a 'sixth sense' and get in synch with the surrounding traffic... Third, this was a one-time 'race' event...

Is it safe??? Not for everyone...

Come to live to NYC, you'll understand...

PS: And yeah, it was posted like 1000x times, but I still enjoy seeing it...
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http://www.digave.com/videos/red-web.mpg

.... I don't think was good at all. Sure they moved faster then everyone else but they came close to a lot of people walking in my opinion, etc.
oh come on!! well.....never try working as a bike messenger then, or doing a race.....!!!!!!!
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and we wonder why they want to make people get bike licenses.
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The burning question it left in my mind was, what is the deal with the one guy taking the other one's cheese (baby)? Is there a shortage of cheese in NYC?
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I'm not that good or fast, but I do a lot of stupid stuff on my bike. I usually at least slow down a little before running the reds, though.
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The burning question it left in my mind was, what is the deal with the one guy taking the other one's cheese (baby)? Is there a shortage of cheese in NYC?

plenty of pie, not enough cheese
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It's not as much as riding aggressive as being able to see around yourself, almost like having a 'sixth sense' and get in synch with the surrounding traffic...
Hey, baby, did we watch the same video? Did you count the times they would have hit peds crossing, had those peds not yielded? That's not being in synch, that's being a bully. If all the cagers in this video had been equally in synch everyone would be dead except the bus driver. OK, maybe the guy (?) in that loooong SUV would have survived too.


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Is it safe??? Not for everyone...
Get real, it is not safe for anyone. Fun maybe, but not safe. Nice downhill riding with the fixie, though .

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Me personally? When there's a rip in the fabric of time.
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Whoa daddy. That was amazing. I admire their skills and nerve in a Evel Kneival (sp?) kind of way. Don't try this at home, kids.
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