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Old 01-12-05, 03:13 AM
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The guy who assaulted you may have given his dad's name to the cops. You might make more friends with the cops if you tell them they were lied to instead of calling them idiots.

Cops hate that (even more than most of us). You may be able to use this "lie" to pull the cops onto your side. (And yes, I know they should already be on your side, but I'm talking reality here).
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Originally Posted by MERTON
it could be. go ask a physicist.
-Thanks Serge...
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Old 01-12-05, 06:43 AM
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did you have to pick the person out of a lineup before a warrant was issued for the arrest?
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I am a 'jr.' named after my dad. Gov't agencies used to get us mixed up all the time. It's possible that was the case here.
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Old 01-12-05, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BeTheChange
Well, what happened in court amazed me. The guy who showed up wasn't the guy who assaulted me. The damn cops got the info on the wrong guy (I believe it was the assaulter's dad)! I mean how hard is it to tell the difference between a 50 year old who is fat and a 20 year old? I'm just in disbelief of the system. I even sat for 4 hours to find this out. Rediculous. But, despite that this is a great day because my friend ricky bought a bike and is going to start bike commuting to his university. I am going to go by the police station later and find out what the name of the guy who assaulted me was and give them an earful. Damn incompitant morons. I can't believe they give these idiots guns.
Definitely follow through. They probably put the name of the person the vehicle the car was registered to. That is incompetence. You should also talk to the officer in charge and file a complaint against the officer who took the report. Perhaps that'll teach them to get reports right.

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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Definitely follow through. They probably put the name of the person the vehicle the car was registered to. That is incompetence. You should also talk to the officer in charge and file a complaint against the officer who took the report. Perhaps that'll teach them to get reports right.

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But the kid may have lied to the cop. We don't know where the mistake came from. I still think it's better to present the kid-is-a-liar idea to the police than you-are-incompetent. The first way is more likely to make a friend of the cop.
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There are a number of possibilities, it's hard to be sure at this point. Check the facts first before you come down on anybody too hard. The dad could have gone on purpose too, thinking that would be better, who knows? It would be very interesting to hear what happens next! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
But the kid may have lied to the cop. We don't know where the mistake came from. I still think it's better to present the kid-is-a-liar idea to the police than you-are-incompetent. The first way is more likely to make a friend of the cop.
One huge mistake appears to be cop not checking the kid's ID, in which case

kid-is-a-liar = cop-is-an-idiot.
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Originally Posted by jerrryhazard
I find this interesting, not sure I agree, but interesting. I feel human nature could use a little curing. An apple falls from a tree by no conscious doing of it's own, in contrast to a person choosing to become physically confrontational. Is that human nature? Survival is one thing, but intimidation is a bit different. Are you implying that human nature is a natural force of nature (like gravity) that cannot be manipulated or effectively controlled? I suppose I'm missing something here (wouldn't be the fist time), and I agree that some individuals could use enlightment, regardless of their nature
This is way off topic, but here it goes...

Human nature is a force that cannot be altered, like gravity. But like gravity, human nature is a force that can be harnessed.

You say human nature could use a little curing. If you were God, how would you change human nature? And why didn't you in the first place? (beginning to see what I mean?)

Yes, part of human nature is the ability to make independent decisions, like choosing to be physically confrontational, which may or may not be appropriate (you're a police officer, he's a bank robber: physically confrontation appropriate? I think so...).

So how do you "cure" human nature so that people are not intimidating when it's "not appropriate"? Intimidation can also be useful when confronted by a threatening animal, like a bear. Learning when intimidation is appropriate and when it isn't is not a function of human nature: it's a lesson every human must learn on his or her own. When you interact with a human who has not had the lessons, this is not evidence of a flaw in human nature, but a flaw in that particular human. Deciding from such an experience that human nature, which is in all of us, is what needs to be "cured", rather than that particular individual, is throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Since human nature is in all of us, I believe holding negative general views of human nature can infect one's view of humanity as a whole, and damage one's self-esteem, which is why I said "be careful" in the first place. I find it to be a critical distinction.

And I love that Carl Sagan quote...
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Definitely follow through. They probably put the name of the person the vehicle the car was registered to. That is incompetence. You should also talk to the officer in charge and file a complaint against the officer who took the report. Perhaps that'll teach them to get reports right.

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This the first time I've disagreed with Koffee, but you catch more flies with honey that vinegar. Start off with the kid must have lied. You'll furthur no matter how it really happened.

Question: Whould you have been better off just punching the guy in the first place?

Good luck
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