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Notso_fastLane 02-12-13 01:17 PM

I hope the admission that he was using his cell phone adds to the penalty. In some states, it would count as 'aggravated' or 'reckless' to whatever charges he was already facing.

howsteepisit 02-12-13 01:37 PM

Lets see, he was looking at his cell phone, hit something hard enough to break the windshield, did not notice what he hit and kept on going. I think the prosecution should be able to add perjury to the charges. The defendants claims are beyond the stupid, have traversed into pure fantasy. How many of you would smash out your windshield and not stop so see what hit you?

Poguemahone 02-12-13 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roushe (Post 15265643)
A picture of the truck. He says he thought he hit a deer? Yeah, right.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=298960

On the stand today, he claimed he did the damage to the windshield himself with a golf club. Will provide article and link in the am. Article up to prosecution resting:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/lo...9bb30f31a.html

dynaryder 02-12-13 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poguemahone (Post 15264489)
Mr. Webb claims he was looking at his cell phone at the time of the accident.

This is illegal in VA. Has been for a couple years now. Also illegal in MD and DC.

Roushe 02-12-13 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Poguemahone (Post 15266869)
On the stand today, he claimed he did the damage to the windshield himself with a golf club. Will provide article and link in the am. Article up to prosecution resting:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/lo...9bb30f31a.html

I guess that would be tampering with evidence? Obstruction?

Russ

Poguemahone 02-12-13 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dynaryder (Post 15266888)
This is illegal in VA. Has been for a couple years now. Also illegal in MD and DC.

I believe this is incorrect. Not illegal in VA. Only for minors, novice drivers, and school bus drivers. MD is correct.

CB HI 02-12-13 07:27 PM

In court:
Quote:

“He was definitely speeding,” Charles Vaughan testified.

Vaughan said that moments later he saw the Durango swerve “violently to the left” up ahead and then accelerate. The brothers saw debris along the road and stopped, and William Vaughan helped turn Kruszewski’s body over and checked in vain for a pulse.

Brett Beatty testified that he was driving eastbound on River Road, saw Kruszewski’s lighted bike and safely passed her. Then he heard a loud crash and saw in his rearview mirror a vehicle quickly approaching him and tailgating him, he said.

Beatty said he immediately feared that the other driver had struck the bicyclist, and Beatty said he went looking for the vehicle after he saw it turn off River Road behind his car. But he said he could not find it.
"the Durango swerve “violently to the left” up ahead and then accelerate"
To me, this says that he saw the cyclist just before he swerved, hit her, and had NO second thoughts about running.

CB HI 02-12-13 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poguemahone (Post 15267108)
I believe this is incorrect. Not illegal in VA. Only for minors, novice drivers, and school bus drivers. MD is correct.

Obviously not illegal in VA, as that is the defense the lier and his lawyer came up with.

Poguemahone 02-12-13 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 15267142)
Obviously not illegal in VA, as that is the defense the lier and his lawyer came up with.

Yep.http://www.distraction.gov/content/g...tate-laws.html
Click on va; you get the sad extent of our cell phone laws. I've been in the legislature when they debate this in commitee; it always dies there. According to our politicos, this is a personal responsibility issue that does not need to be legislated.

One of the things about the last couple of days is the extent to which Mr. Webb is a tool, the latest being the golf club/windshield excuse. As an RVA cyclist, this has been painful to watch.

Poguemahone 02-12-13 08:37 PM

Article has been updated, complete with golf club claim:

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/lo...9bb30f31a.html

realism 02-13-13 02:11 AM

Today was a good day....if I can say that. Looking forward to tomorrow. He got ripped a new one today.
Be back when it's all said and done.

Poguemahone 02-13-13 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by realism (Post 15268089)
Today was a good day....if I can say that. Looking forward to tomorrow. He got ripped a new one today.
Be back when it's all said and done.

When this is all done, I'm going to put some flowers on the ghost bike. Then I'm going to do the next good deed that presents itself.

kmv2 02-13-13 08:20 AM

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A similar case happened here.

The guy had been up all night drinking and drove home in the early AM. According to him he dozed off and when he woke up he had a smashed windshield and was somehow still driving into his garage where he stored his bloody smashed up van until he heard the news and turned himself in.

He hit 5 people who were riding in a single file group.

"He also said he thought he had hit a post and did not stop at the scene because he had not realized he hit people."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...l-verdict.html

Yeah looks like a post to me..minimal front end damage and a completely smashed windshield:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=299149

Guilty on all accounts.

This guy is a fool for driving in that state. Luckily nobody was killed. Two years seems fair.

merlinextraligh 02-13-13 08:30 AM

Prosecutor must not have offered Webb any deal. Stranger things have happened, but I'll be shocked if he gets acquitted, and he would have been a fool to reject any deal that gave him any leniency, given the evidence against him.

Poguemahone 02-13-13 07:19 PM

Mr. Webb has been found guilty. Jury is currently discussing sentencing recommendations.

merlinextraligh 02-13-13 07:42 PM

Truth and justice prevails!

howsteepisit 02-13-13 07:43 PM

Even without knowing the result, I don't think that Mr Webb will get anywhere near what he deserves. I can always hope otherwise though.

Poguemahone 02-14-13 06:13 AM

Article on sentencing:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/lo...a4bcf6878.html

Mr. Webb faces zero to ten years.

dynodonn 02-14-13 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Poguemahone (Post 15272418)

Mr. Webb faces zero to ten years.

......which is only for not stopping. I expect a sentence well short of the maximum with most of it being spent on probation.

CB HI 02-14-13 02:50 PM

Jury recommended 3 years.

Hope the judge gives a more appropriate 8-10 years.

Poguemahone 02-14-13 06:47 PM

article:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/lo...a4bcf6878.html

Crazyed..27 02-14-13 07:42 PM

From the posted article- Steven Webb testified that his son goes out of his way to help others.
"He's not a tough guy; he never has been," he said. "He's just a good kid."
He is not a good kid he is a cowered....How do you even drive with a windshield like that?

Grillparzer 02-14-13 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom (Post 14567857)
The fact that he's changed his story should carry meaning.

+1

Crazyed..27 02-14-13 07:59 PM

Also if he gets only 3 years for this...he will go to a low level prison and get out in 9 to 12 months...then be on parole. I wish this dudes family did not have money....because that is what saved his a$$.

howsteepisit 02-14-13 08:06 PM

A good Kid - He's 31 years old. I hate crap like that. His father shares in the guilt for this one.


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