Photos from fatal bike crash in Cincy this morning
A friend of mine came across this scene this morning. The cyclist died.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...08949841_n.jpg http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...04140366_n.jpg Note the handicapped plate on the car. Here's the story in the Cincy paper: The most ridiculous quote from the article: "It was not clear why Gast [the victim] was riding on the road instead of the bike path on the side of the road." |
Originally Posted by Kurt Erlenbach
(Post 14663385)
Note the handicapped plate on the car.
The most ridiculous quote from the article: "It was not clear why Gast [the victim] was riding on the road instead of the bike path on the side of the road." |
I didn't know trolls looked like cheshire cats.
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Ridiculous Death....
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Originally Posted by EsoxLucius
(Post 14663474)
I didn't know trolls looked like cheshire cats.
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Originally Posted by Kurt Erlenbach
(Post 14663385)
The most ridiculous quote from the article: "It was not clear why Gast [the victim] was riding on the road instead of the bike path on the side of the road." "The current path is uneven, has potholes and crosses driveways," he said. "It is the weakest portion of the Lunken Trail. While I don't ride the Lunken Trail frequently, I can see how cyclists on road bikes could prefer to ride on the road as opposed to on the path." |
No matter how you look at it, the driver failed one of the basic rules of driving... Don't hit things that are right in front of you.
That is pretty much RULE#1. |
ILTB - You're probably right. My comment about the driver's handicapped plate likely is improper, and is irrelevent.
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My brother lives and rides a red Roubaix just like that in Northern OH.
On the topic of the handicap plate, in this part of the country, a lot of elderly people have handicap plates, and they are responsible for more of the buzzes than an other group. I didn't read any article associated with the crash, but my guess would be the operator was elderly and will be free to continue driving and not seeing things tomorrow. |
I just read the article and I was wrong about the age.
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27 yrs old, terrible. he had his whole life ahead of him
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664151)
My brother lives and rides a red Roubaix just like that in Northern OH.
On the topic of the handicap plate, in this part of the country, a lot of elderly people have handicap plates, and they are responsible for more of the buzzes than an other group. I didn't read any article associated with the crash, but my guess would be the operator was elderly and will be free to continue driving and not seeing things tomorrow. According to the article the driver was 40, hardly "elderly." Edit: Apparently the mobile app won't allow one to delete a post. I didn't see your second post. |
Originally Posted by Kurt Erlenbach
(Post 14664123)
ILTB - You're probably right. My comment about the driver's handicapped plate likely is improper, and is irrelevent.
I suspect the time of day and potential visibility issues (to include sunrise glare in eyes of driver, bicycle/motorist lighting and/or both) may be involved. Or it may turn out that driver's "handicap" may be relevant after the facts are known. What is not in doubt is that this is a tragic loss of life of a brother bicyclist |
Looking at the one photograph with the police in the background, that is some nice bike "path". I see plenty of dirt and rocks, not pavement and a puddle of water too. Of course he's not in the bike "path"!
Reading the article, its a multi-use and multi-directional path. Not something I would want to ride in. |
Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
(Post 14664378)
Looking at the one photograph with the police in the background, that is some nice bike "path". I see plenty of dirt and rocks, not pavement and a puddle of water too. Of course he's not in the bike "path"!
Reading the article, its a multi-use and multi-directional path. Not something I would want to ride in. |
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 14664453)
On the other hand, looking at the results of riding on that road doesn't look that appealing either.
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Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy
(Post 14664240)
Paul,
According to the article the driver was 40, hardly "elderly." Edit: Apparently the mobile app won't allow one to delete a post. I didn't see your second post. I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too? |
Agreed, if that's there idea of a "bike path" it's no wonder that cyclists aren't using it. Hell I don't see how walkers would want to use it.
Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
(Post 14664378)
Looking at the one photograph with the police in the background, that is some nice bike "path". I see plenty of dirt and rocks, not pavement and a puddle of water too. Of course he's not in the bike "path"!
Reading the article, its a multi-use and multi-directional path. Not something I would want to ride in. |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy
(Post 14664240)
Paul,
According to the article the driver was 40, hardly "elderly." Edit: Apparently the mobile app won't allow one to delete a post. I didn't see your second post. I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too? |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too?
Back on topic: I'm always amazed when people run into things that are right in front of them. I doubt if the disabled sticker is relevant, but I'd sure like to see the driver's cell phone log. (I know, ILTB, this is nothing but conjecture, but there are only so many reasons for running into someone who is right in front of you, and not looking is right up there.) |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too?
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z8dF...related...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too?
Originally Posted by Kactus
(Post 14665167)
While working as a surveyor long ago I noticed the same thing. You could stand at the edge of the road and they would just miss you. Funny thing though... if you put a traffic cone on the side of the road, they gave it a wide berth!
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Considering the point of impact it looks like the bike was in proper posture and the car failed to adjust speed,which appears high by that force. A friend of mine has a bad right eye(blind in it) which I am not saying is a cause for a handicap plate or an accident, it could account for a depth perception or field of view issue.
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The bike path is a 5 mile loop around the airport. That section of the path, 1.1 miles, is basically a wide sidewalk, with driveways and very uneven pavement. The road is smooth and wide enough for cars to pass by just barely crossing the center line. I always ride on the road there. The speed limit is 40 mph.
Here's the bike rider's route, going northeast: ridewithgps.com/routes/1646786 Pull down the Map at the top right and select OSM Cycle or Satellite to see the road conditions. I wouldn't have expected a bike collision on that road, given the sight lines, and all the common bike and walker traffic in the area. It was dark, 6:15 am, sunrise is 7:03. |
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 14665425)
I wouldn't have expected a bike collision on that road, given the sight lines, and all the common bike and walker traffic in the area. It was dark, 6:15 am, sunrise is 7:03. -G |
Originally Posted by mtbikerinpa
(Post 14665338)
Considering the point of impact it looks like the bike was in proper posture and the car failed to adjust speed,which appears high by that force. A friend of mine has a bad right eye(blind in it) which I am not saying is a cause for a handicap plate or an accident, it could account for a depth perception or field of view issue.
So unless the driver was distracted by something more "important" than driving. Theres no reason he shouldn't have seen the cyclist. And I agree in that it would be nice to see the drivers cell phone/OnStar records. As well as their driving record. |
Originally Posted by gmt13
(Post 14665452)
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 14665425)
I wouldn't have expected a bike collision on that road, given the sight lines, and all the common bike and walker traffic in the area. It was dark, 6:15 am, sunrise is 7:03. -G |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too?
BTW, How do you guesstimate drivers' age while riding your bike? Blue/gray/no hair, driving a Buick, anybody who looks older than you, or what? |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 14664801)
I don't know if it is a regional thing or not, but old folks seem to live in utter fear of venturing into the oncoming lane to effect a pass. I have been buzzed by more old folks than any other category...even the Bubbas. Do you get that in your area too?
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For my part I'd be on the "path." You will never win with a car. Ride to survive. My deepest sympathy to the cyclists family.
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