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kmv2 02-26-13 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15319744)
Don't ya mean that your kneejerk reaction is - representatives, no matter what their background, who hold a different opinion than your own "don't know any better" and are unqualified for office, even when they are elected by the people in their district and may even be representing their constituents' views?

1. Residents complain about bikes on one section of road.
2. Reps propose banning bikes on large section of roads.

How is that not knee jerk? How does that represent their constituents' views beyond the people who complained?

I-Like-To-Bike 02-26-13 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kmv2 (Post 15319766)
1. Residents complain about bikes on one section of road.
2. Reps propose banning bikes on large section of roads.

How is that not knee jerk? How does that represent their constituents' views beyond the people who complained?

Probably better than emails from outraged cyclists from Portlandia and other far off environs.

I'm not supporting the proposed ban, but only point out that smarmy comments and emails from "educated cyclists" about the education level of the representative, his"lack of smarts" and/or being "unqualified for office" are not going to defeat this proposal but if sent to the representative in question are more likely to get his dander up.

kmv2 02-26-13 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15319837)
Probably better than emails from outraged cyclists from Portlandia and other far off environs.

I'm not supporting the proposed ban, but only point out that smarmy comments and emails from "educated cyclists" about the education level of the representative, his"lack of smarts" and/or being "unqualified for office" are not going to defeat this proposal but if sent to the representative in question are more likely to get his dander up.

Probably better yeah, that's why I'm not emailing them from Canadia. They are still idiots though, educated or not.

Thats just like, my opinion, man.

CB HI 02-26-13 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15319741)
Duplicate post

One would think that you would have learned how to delete a post by now.

I-Like-To-Bike 02-26-13 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 15320146)
One would think that you would have learned how to delete a post by now.

You "think" too much. I tried before, it didn't work. So sue me.

ChasH 02-27-13 12:13 AM

Unenforceable proposal.

Bekologist 02-27-13 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15304775)
Given the exceptions listed, I suspect the citizens' complaints are/may be the result of encounters with cycling club group activity/"training" rides. A similar proposal was made several years ago in Iowa because of a state legislator's personal unpleasant encounter with members of a cycling club on the highway near Ames. I believe it was never passed.

this happened in Florida. A mandatory bike lane law was blitzkrieged through the legislature, and on the governors desk which he signed before cycling advocacy could effectively rally against it. MBL in florida now.

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Some eloquent Missouri cyclists need to get on that pronto. I was able to help successfully defeat proposed mandatory shoulder and bike lane laws in Washington state by writing solid rejections of the proposals to all the sponsors of the bills, bike advocates and rallied local outrage among other cyclists. It worked in Washington state, the bill got dropped.

DirtRoadRunner 03-05-13 10:48 AM

Interview with Rep. Korman: http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dai...n_missouri.php

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Originally Posted by excerpts from Riverfront Times Article
"There were tensions to begin with," he says regarding the implementation of bike paths and related property disputes. "It really aggravates those folks when they see them riding their bicycles on roads and not using the trails that they fought against for so long."

But Korman says it can be incredible dangerous when cyclists and drivers share the road. "That's just the laws of physics," he says of potential collisions between large vehicles and bikes.

"It's not only devastating to a cyclist getting hit," he says. "It's also devastating to a motorist that hits the cyclist. It happens too often.... A lot of bicycles are out there and sometimes they get hit and injured. It's very impacting to the family of the cyclist...and very impacting for the motorist."

Korman says he has heard enough complaints from constituents.

"Finally, I just tried to look at a legislative way to help resolve the issue," he says.

I find it interesting that he doesn't mention the 800 or so motor vehicle fatalities that occur every year in Missouri. Apparently it is only impacting if a car and bike collide - not if a car and car collides (or a car hits something else). Cyclists fatalities are pretty rare in Missouri, usually < 10 a year.

He just doesn't understand that its incredibly dangerous when CARS use the road, and decides to try to ban bikes instead.

CommuteCommando 03-05-13 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by howsteepisit (Post 15304338)
And to think I used to like Missouri.

I've met several nice people from MO. None of them were politicians.

agent pombero 03-05-13 03:19 PM

Repubs: Keepin' Missouri fat is our job!


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