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    Senior Member kmv2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Don't ya mean that your kneejerk reaction is - representatives, no matter what their background, who hold a different opinion than your own "don't know any better" and are unqualified for office, even when they are elected by the people in their district and may even be representing their constituents' views?
    1. Residents complain about bikes on one section of road.
    2. Reps propose banning bikes on large section of roads.

    How is that not knee jerk? How does that represent their constituents' views beyond the people who complained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmv2 View Post
    1. Residents complain about bikes on one section of road.
    2. Reps propose banning bikes on large section of roads.

    How is that not knee jerk? How does that represent their constituents' views beyond the people who complained?
    Probably better than emails from outraged cyclists from Portlandia and other far off environs.

    I'm not supporting the proposed ban, but only point out that smarmy comments and emails from "educated cyclists" about the education level of the representative, his"lack of smarts" and/or being "unqualified for office" are not going to defeat this proposal but if sent to the representative in question are more likely to get his dander up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Probably better than emails from outraged cyclists from Portlandia and other far off environs.

    I'm not supporting the proposed ban, but only point out that smarmy comments and emails from "educated cyclists" about the education level of the representative, his"lack of smarts" and/or being "unqualified for office" are not going to defeat this proposal but if sent to the representative in question are more likely to get his dander up.
    Probably better yeah, that's why I'm not emailing them from Canadia. They are still idiots though, educated or not.

    Thats just like, my opinion, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Duplicate post
    One would think that you would have learned how to delete a post by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    One would think that you would have learned how to delete a post by now.
    You "think" too much. I tried before, it didn't work. So sue me.

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    Unenforceable proposal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Given the exceptions listed, I suspect the citizens' complaints are/may be the result of encounters with cycling club group activity/"training" rides. A similar proposal was made several years ago in Iowa because of a state legislator's personal unpleasant encounter with members of a cycling club on the highway near Ames. I believe it was never passed.
    this happened in Florida. A mandatory bike lane law was blitzkrieged through the legislature, and on the governors desk which he signed before cycling advocacy could effectively rally against it. MBL in florida now.

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    Some eloquent Missouri cyclists need to get on that pronto. I was able to help successfully defeat proposed mandatory shoulder and bike lane laws in Washington state by writing solid rejections of the proposals to all the sponsors of the bills, bike advocates and rallied local outrage among other cyclists. It worked in Washington state, the bill got dropped.
    "Evidence, anecdote and methodology all support planning for roadway bike traffic."

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    Interview with Rep. Korman: http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dai...n_missouri.php

    Quote Originally Posted by excerpts from Riverfront Times Article
    "There were tensions to begin with," he says regarding the implementation of bike paths and related property disputes. "It really aggravates those folks when they see them riding their bicycles on roads and not using the trails that they fought against for so long."

    But Korman says it can be incredible dangerous when cyclists and drivers share the road. "That's just the laws of physics," he says of potential collisions between large vehicles and bikes.

    "It's not only devastating to a cyclist getting hit," he says. "It's also devastating to a motorist that hits the cyclist. It happens too often.... A lot of bicycles are out there and sometimes they get hit and injured. It's very impacting to the family of the cyclist...and very impacting for the motorist."

    Korman says he has heard enough complaints from constituents.

    "Finally, I just tried to look at a legislative way to help resolve the issue," he says.
    I find it interesting that he doesn't mention the 800 or so motor vehicle fatalities that occur every year in Missouri. Apparently it is only impacting if a car and bike collide - not if a car and car collides (or a car hits something else). Cyclists fatalities are pretty rare in Missouri, usually < 10 a year.

    He just doesn't understand that its incredibly dangerous when CARS use the road, and decides to try to ban bikes instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
    And to think I used to like Missouri.
    I've met several nice people from MO. None of them were politicians.
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    Repubs: Keepin' Missouri fat is our job!

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