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Old 03-01-13, 09:11 AM   #26
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Every town I've ever lived in the cops look the other way when cyclists do stupid and illegal stuff. Here in Indiana the mindset of the cops is that if a cyclist gets killed it's their fault. The cops here also don't enforce lighting or reflectors on bikes at night, with that the mindset of the cops and the law takes a very ominous turn for the worse, if a car runs a red light or stop sign or whatever and is at fault technically for the accident BUT the bicycle had no reflectors or lights...the driver is not held responsible!!

We have no 3' law here either, which is something I've been trying to get the politicians to pass here in Indiana...but they act like they don't care about cyclists, which is weird because a few of those same politicians ride bikes!
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Old 03-01-13, 10:17 AM   #27
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While I don't have a problem with police citing scofflaw cyclists, let's face facts. Motorists kill over 30,000 Americans and maim over a million annually. Cyclists really don't pose anywhere near that level of hazard to other road users. How many people are killed by scofflaw cyclists, other than self-inflicted, per year? Two?

Police departments don't have unlimited resources and should rightfully employ their assets where, when and in a manner that furthers public safety as best they can. At least I hope they are attempting to do that.
It goes two ways. A hazard is also someone who breaks the law and puts themselves into danger.
I agree that ticketing `scofflaw` cyclists is useless in the long run, for education/deterrence and as a use of tax dollars.

I always say there should be more advocacy and education on the streets and in the stores when you buy your bike. I say this, because (for both sides) there is a huge gap between what is expected of us as road users and our general knowledge of these expectations.
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Old 03-01-13, 11:31 AM   #28
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...if a car runs a red light or stop sign or whatever and is at fault technically for the accident BUT the bicycle had no reflectors or lights...the driver is not held responsible!!
Is this statement your speculation, or is it borne out in actual cases? If the latter, care to provide the references?
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