Meeting in NYC
02-16-05, 10:37 PM
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Meeting in NYC
Anyone coming?
If you are, let me know. I'll look forward to seeing some of you New Yorkers there 
OPEN FORUM: THE FUTURE OF CRITICAL MASS AND NYC CYCLING
The Urban Center at the Municipal Art Society
457 Madison Ave. (bet 50th and 51st Streets)
Thursday, Feb. 17, 2005, 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
Doors open 6:00 p.m.
Come to this forum about Critical Mass to hear brief updates on legal and policy issues, and to brainstorm strategies for preserving the mass and other group rides, expanding cycling and cyclists' rights, and creating safe cycling in NYC. Make your voice heard at this open meeting.
The Urban Center at the Municipal Art Society
457 Madison Ave. (bet 50th and 51st Streets)
Thursday, Feb. 17, 2005, 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
Doors open 6:00 p.m.
Come to this forum about Critical Mass to hear brief updates on legal and policy issues, and to brainstorm strategies for preserving the mass and other group rides, expanding cycling and cyclists' rights, and creating safe cycling in NYC. Make your voice heard at this open meeting.
02-16-05, 11:06 PM
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NO. All I ever do is break the law, why would I go to a meeting to get them to enforce it. 
02-17-05, 07:12 AM
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Why would this get NYPD to enforce the law? esp. on the random light running biker? 1 million red lights are run by cars everyday in NYC. I would hope they would go after the 2000lb vehicle not the 22lbl vehicle. I don't plan on changing my riding style which involves breaking laws, which do not burden other road users with my safety.
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
02-17-05, 07:14 AM
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Cool! I can't wait to see what people have to say...
I'm gonna be the guy in a leather Canada jacket in case anyone's looking for me.
I'm gonna be the guy in a leather Canada jacket in case anyone's looking for me.
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Why would this get NYPD to enforce the law? esp. on the random light running biker? 1 million red lights are run by cars everyday in NYC. I am expecting cops would go after the 2000lb vehicle not the 22lbl vehicle. I don't plan on changing my riding style which involves breaking laws, ( those which do not burden other road users with my safety).
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
02-17-05, 09:25 PM
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How was it? I briefly spoke to someone who is there, but didn't have any time to get the details...unfortunately I found out too late to make it.
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Originally Posted by nycm'er
Why would this get NYPD to enforce the law? esp. on the random light running biker? 1 million red lights are run by cars everyday in NYC. I am expecting cops would go after the 2000lb vehicle not the 22lbl vehicle. I don't plan on changing my riding style which involves breaking laws, ( those which do not burden other road users with my safety).
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
I really want to go vince, hopefuly will see you there.
02-17-05, 10:30 PM
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A good point, Slvoid; has anyone been stopped by nypd after a flagrent violation while riding by themselves or one other rider? I know it happens, certainly happens to riders elsewhere on this forum, but I wonder how often and to whom.
I went but had to leave after 45 minutes, seemed like the usual crowd. The host welcomed Cops if any were there, I really don't think a copper could have passed as one of the attendees. Anyone come away with anything enlightening?
I went but had to leave after 45 minutes, seemed like the usual crowd. The host welcomed Cops if any were there, I really don't think a copper could have passed as one of the attendees. Anyone come away with anything enlightening?
02-17-05, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nycm'er
A good point, Slvoid; has anyone been stopped by nypd after a flagrent violation while riding by themselves or one other rider? I know it happens, certainly happens to riders elsewhere on this forum, but I wonder how often and to whom.
I went but had to leave after 45 minutes, seemed like the usual crowd. The host welcomed Cops if any were there, I really don't think a copper could have passed as one of the attendees. Anyone come away with anything enlightening?
I went but had to leave after 45 minutes, seemed like the usual crowd. The host welcomed Cops if any were there, I really don't think a copper could have passed as one of the attendees. Anyone come away with anything enlightening?
I know last week though, I was having dinner with my gf when the brooklyn CM went up montague street, it was sad, there were like, MAYBE 40 riders and I saw 6 police scooters, 3 police cars, and a police van.
02-18-05, 12:18 AM
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What's real sad is that 3 cars and 6 scooter andd a van is honestly 1/3rd the usual police escort. Good thing we solved that terra threat and that drug scourge, or thosee cops would be a huge waste of overtime funds.
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Stay away. Looks like a trap to arrest and intimadate CM riders. The police do have cameras and will supoena news footage.
02-18-05, 10:02 PM
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The police do have cameras and will supoena news footage.
02-18-05, 10:55 PM
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That's all I'm saying...
What has gotten into people's heads when a meeting of people to discuss something is called a "trap" because there might be a tape of it. Screw 'em! I'll bring the video camera and hand it to the police! What are they gonna charge me with? Wearing a jacket that didn't match my shoes?
What has gotten into people's heads when a meeting of people to discuss something is called a "trap" because there might be a tape of it. Screw 'em! I'll bring the video camera and hand it to the police! What are they gonna charge me with? Wearing a jacket that didn't match my shoes?
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Originally Posted by vincenzosi
That's all I'm saying...
What has gotten into people's heads when a meeting of people to discuss something is called a "trap" because there might be a tape of it. Screw 'em! I'll bring the video camera and hand it to the police! What are they gonna charge me with? Wearing a jacket that didn't match my shoes?
What has gotten into people's heads when a meeting of people to discuss something is called a "trap" because there might be a tape of it. Screw 'em! I'll bring the video camera and hand it to the police! What are they gonna charge me with? Wearing a jacket that didn't match my shoes?
I can honestly say, if I have to obey the law like most cars I see on my commute, it would really suck.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I just don't want someone making a big fuss and having the cops start actually making it illegal for me to go the wrong way, hop onto and off sidewalks, and run every light I see. I can honestly say, if I have to obey the law like most cars I see on my commute, it would really suck.
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Originally Posted by randya
That's the man's rules, too. The cops need to place their emphasis on where the risk is - after all, they're public safety officers. Therefore, motorists first.
