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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post

    For bonus points, put hidden security cameras nearby so you could prosecute the people who would inevitably come and vandalize the system.

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    Great idea, and lets include cyclists in those prosecution by camera tickets for failing to obey the rules of the road!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
    Great idea, and lets include cyclists in those prosecution by camera tickets for failing to obey the rules of the road!
    Fine by me, as long as EVERYONE follows the same rules. I haven't seen a car actually stop at a stop sign yet this year, unless there was cross traffic present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    Fine by me, as long as EVERYONE follows the same rules. I haven't seen a car actually stop at a stop sign yet this year, unless there was cross traffic present.
    Of course it includes all, you know have big brother everywhere watching our every move just waiting to pounce on us to write tickets, another form of tax which you can elect to pay or not by obeying the law to the letter every waking moment of your life.
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    If you ask me, it's a safety issue but what is the argument beyond an obsession and yeah, but's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
    If you ask me, it's a safety issue but what is the argument beyond an obsession and yeah, but's?
    Except in America's case we live in a nanny state with way too much over protection going on with only a lot more to come, I for one disagree with all that crap.
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    I agree with rekmeyta here. While I support and would like to see better traffic enforcement, the idea of a plethora of hidden and not-so-hidden cameras watching for and ticketing every little infraction is creepy and upsetting to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
    I agree with rekmeyta here. While I support and would like to see better traffic enforcement, the idea of a plethora of hidden and not-so-hidden cameras watching for and ticketing every little infraction is creepy and upsetting to me.
    Most people who suggest lots of hidden cameras and other security and safety measures couldn't live a week in their dream world. But I'm in favor of experimentation toward making life better.

    So let's do pilot programs, saturating the areas near the proponents with all measures of eye in the sky security, while leaving the rest as they are.
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    I am Ok with that. Let the pilot programs begin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    Most people who suggest lots of hidden cameras and other security and safety measures couldn't live a week in their dream world. But I'm in favor of experimentation toward making life better.

    So let's do pilot programs, saturating the areas near the proponents with all measures of eye in the sky security, while leaving the rest as they are.
    I'm not ok with that, because the government will start what they call a "pilot" program only to find out later there never was any intentions whatsoever to remove the so called "pilot" program. Once installed it will be permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
    I'm not ok with that, because the government will start what they call a "pilot" program only to find out later there never was any intentions whatsoever to remove the so called "pilot" program. Once installed it will be permanent.
    You need to get your sarcasm detector recalibrated.
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    I think Rek is spot on about government pilot programs and the inability to end any program, but I did recognize the tongue in cheek nature of the post.
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    How badly was the cyclist injured ? Did the motorcyclist provide ANY explanation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howsteepisit View Post
    I think Rek is spot on about government pilot programs and the inability to end any program, but I did recognize the tongue in cheek nature of the post.
    The fact is we have to recognise that once a safety program is implemented that somehow increases government income (while supposedly preventing or dissuading risky behavior), it is likely here to stay regardless of the outcome. Consider the tired debate of speed cameras.

    It's easy to propose all manner of 'fixes' that impact the wallet, but even if they don't work, the government will leave it in just for the sake of income generation.

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