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ka0use 05-25-13 11:20 PM

Motorist reminder sign
 
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on the roof of campus cycles, lakewood, colorado.
the bike is kinda like a pale shadow.

saw another sign in my hood on another major street.

Chris516 05-25-13 11:40 PM

Good signs

lubes17319 05-26-13 07:06 AM

Cool, didn't realize they opened a new shop in the old Westside building.

turbo1889 05-26-13 12:08 PM

BUT, bikes and more importantly their riders don't have to be as hard to see as a lot of riders choose to make them.

In no way with the possible exception of bike night ninjas am I saying that excuses people who don't keep their head up and actually look around closely when they are driving and watch for bikes.

What I am saying is that the guy wearing drab colored clothes on a drab colored bike needs to read that sign as well. In my opinion most bikes should come painted in a bright stand out florescent color preferably with reflective paint that turns the entire bikes frame into a giant reflector. The rider can also do something about the clothes he/she chooses to wear. If the bright colored spandex outfits aren't for you then a $12 bright yellow or orange reflective vest is an excellent investment. Also check the hunting section of the sporting goods section, hunters safety orange hats, coats, sweatshirts, T-shirts, vests, back-packs, fanny packs, . . . etc. . . they all make good cycling stuff too for high visibility so people are much more likely to see you.

B. Carfree 05-26-13 12:23 PM

And yet motorists manage to avoid almost all of the potholes that are almost the same color as the unbroken asphalt around them. It's not a matter of being seen, it is a matter of the person doing the seeing paying attention and having some concern for the people around them.

FBinNY 05-26-13 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo1889 (Post 15669446)
BUT, bikes and more importantly their riders don't have to be as hard to see as a lot of riders choose to make them.

+1,

While in noway excusing drivers from their responsibility to be alert and aware, riders can and should make an effort to be visible. High contrast clothing doesn't impose any burden or handicap so there's no reason not to wear it when possible. Lights and reflectors also help, and cyclists would do well to consider that daytime running lights are mandatory for motorcycles.

There's also the issue of lane position, especially on right hand curves.

The bicycle community might do well to follow the lead of the Scuba diving community. Tank fill stations, obviously have a responsibility to make sure the tank is properly filled, but divers are well aware that they bear the final responsibility for verifying the breathing gas, since it's their lives that depend on it.

KD5NRH 05-26-13 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by B. Carfree (Post 15669482)
And yet motorists manage to avoid almost all of the potholes that are almost the same color as the unbroken asphalt around them.

Alignment shops make a living off the fact that people hit potholes plenty often. If they missed most of them, there wouldn't be such a market for control arms, tie rods, trailing arms, etc.

kenji666 05-26-13 03:37 PM

Great, now I need to get my yellow bike painted a different color.

turbo1889 05-26-13 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kenji666 (Post 15669973)
Great, now I need to get my yellow bike painted a different color.

Actually yellow is a pretty good color for a bike in most situations provided you don't have see of yellow for a background.

B. Carfree 05-26-13 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KD5NRH (Post 15669958)
Alignment shops make a living off the fact that people hit potholes plenty often. If they missed most of them, there wouldn't be such a market for control arms, tie rods, trailing arms, etc.

Gee, I thought they knocked their cars out of alignment by smashing into the concrete pieces at the end of the parking spaces at the mall. All those tire marks must be from some other type of vehicle.

plumberroy 05-26-13 05:19 PM

There was a article in the local paper earlier this month on bicycle month it mentioned the city (Cincinnati) was putting up several billboards reminding drivers it is the law to give cyclist at least 3 ft clearance . I have not seen them but supposedly they are around
Roy

Fargo Wolf 05-27-13 02:17 PM

That's why I sometimes wear my bright orange hunter's vest. Works like a hot damn and even got complimented by a couple of motorists for wearing it.:)

spare_wheel 05-27-13 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by B. Carfree (Post 15669482)
it is a matter of the person doing the seeing paying attention and having some concern for the people around them.

bingo. would it kill motorists to slow down a bit when its rainy and dark?

and in pdx there are plenty of ninjas and no ninja ghost bikes. almost makes one wonder whether the calling out of ninjas has more to do with "out group" stereotyping than real safety concern.

plumberroy 05-28-13 05:15 PM

Saw one of the signs Cincinnati said was going up tonight found a copy on the local bike clubs face book these are going up around town
Roy
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa48f8d15.png

Booger1 05-30-13 10:12 AM

These are around L.A. lately....they have them on the back of the busses also:
http://lametthesource.files.wordpres...pg?w=584&h=377

FBinNY 05-30-13 10:23 AM

Great sign, and the message that needs to be gotten out. All road users need to understand that roads are a shared resource, and learn that respect and courtesy are key to using them safely.

howsteepisit 05-30-13 12:31 PM

I don't know, but to me share the road sounds too optional. To share something is to allow use through some largess on the part of the sharer. I feel like the message needs to be more like Bicyclists have a right to the road too. Just an idle thought.

FBinNY 05-30-13 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by howsteepisit (Post 15684936)
I don't know, but to me share the road sounds too optional. To share something is to allow use through some largess on the part of the sharer. I feel like the message needs to be more like Bicyclists have a right to the road too. Just an idle thought.

The message is clear, neither has the exclusive right to the road, it's a shared resource. Since when has Sharing become synomynous with charity? If it has, then maybe USA society has more serious issues than bike lanes.

rumrunn6 05-30-13 12:47 PM

that yellow sign is hard to read the print is too small, wutz with all the empty space, they expect a driver to read that while they are driving?

FBinNY 05-30-13 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 15685013)
that yellow sign is hard to read the print is too small, wutz with all the empty space, they expect a driver to read that while they are driving?

WTF, it's eye catching, and people will pass it more than once, and get the message (if they're open to the message. I think it's a great sign, and really like the reminder that sometimes cyclists need the lane, but I guess some people won't ever be happy.

rumrunn6 05-30-13 02:23 PM

awww, I like it, just think the typeface could be bigger, that's all

howsteepisit 05-30-13 02:25 PM

I know what you mean FB, but in many cases, sharing does seem to imply a choice if to share or not. Maybe just my own distorted view. I don't know, which is why I broached the subject.

Booger1 05-30-13 02:37 PM

In California,when I see a share the road sign,that means whatever little bit of easement you were riding on,is now going bye bye.....Your GOING to share the road......like it or not.

FBinNY 05-30-13 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger1 (Post 15685474)
In California,when I see a share the road sign,that means whatever little bit of easement you were riding on,is now going bye bye.....Your GOING to share the road......like it or not.

I don't mean what easement you think you now have an exclusive right to, as opposed to a shared road.

In any case the sign is a loud and clear reminder of cyclist's rights to the road, including the whole lane when they need it. This is a solid pro cyclist message, a reminder to motorists that we are not relegated to some narrow strip along the edge or shoulder.

I don't see how any cyclist can find anything negative here, but then again maybe Pogo was right "we have met the enemy, and he is us".


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