||05-30-13 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Bekologist
how do they gauge that distance any easier with the bike in the middle of the traffic lane versus in a buffered bike-lane?
Seriously, a rider is suggesting they'd be riding right where the traffic got rear-ended, and not in the 8 feet of width in which joey is safely 'taking the (bike)lane in"
it seems obvious the teaching moment in this thread is -cyclists that 'take the (traffic) lane' can leave themselves open to rear-ending in stop and go urban traffic.
suggesting cyclists ride where a rider is much more likely to get rear ended and stuck in traffic is a downgrading of safety for riders facing traffic as seen in the OP.
Because, They don't have to turn their head to see the cyclist, the cyclist will be directly in front of them. Also, To say that cyclists' leave themselves open to being rear-ended by 'taking the lane', is as equally weak, as saying that a cyclist doesn't leave themselves open to getting hurt by staying to the right of the traffic flow. Since a drunk or other kind of inattentive motorist could still hit them, by the motorist drifting into a bike lane, that is not physically separated from the traffic flow, by a concrete girder or something of that nature.
Originally Posted by dynodonn
At times, I'm glad that motorists sit on the opposite side of their vehicle in relation to passing me on a two lane road, since many motorists tend to be less confident in their passing maneuver, giving me considerably more than 3 ft of passing distance. When I'm riding on the left side of a US one way street, motorists are much more confident in making closer passing maneuvers and at an even faster speed level, since their ability to gauge passing distance is far better.
How I react to motorist harassment depends mainly on my personal experience with our local traffic, after some considerable riding time and my annual motorist interactions ranging in the tens of thousands, I've found that my riding experience lower on the stress factor level when using our local bicycle infrastructure whenever I'm able to. I consider it choosing the lesser of the two evils.
Yes, How a cyclist reacts to motorist harassment depends on personal experience with the local traffic in their locale. I was speaking generally. I think the motorist that hit the curb as they were getting back into the lane last week, didn't seem confident as they were getting back into the lane.
Your example of riding on the left side of a U.S. one-way street is indirectly what I am referring to. If you are riding in the same direction as the motorized traffic, and you are on the left, and you would be passed, by the driver-side of the vehicle so the motorist just has to look out the driver-side door window.