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    Citibikes - Bike share pics

    Some photos of Citibikes. Kinda cute. The bikes seem to be welded steel and they are nice and shiny. The seatpost has a blocking device so no one can take it off. That said - the racks block a lot of real estate and if you have an emergency vehicle - could be tough?












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    The bike blocks no kore space than a tractor trailer unloading as happens all the time in NYC most of the times while doubled parked. Those that are crying about having to walk around them are just griping and the news outlets are just hyping it because it sells and because nobody wants to hear good news anymore.

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    The bike frames are made of aluminum alloy. The design has been in use for years in several other cities. The first place to use this design was Montreal where they are known as Bixi bikes, you can see them here all over the place. The bike was designed in Quebec for the Montreal bike share program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essex
    the racks block a lot of real estate and if you have an emergency vehicle - could be tough?
    And a line of parked cars would be easier to negotiate in an emergency? Well, I guess every silver lining has its dark cloud.

    Unbelievable to me that even some bicyclists are scraping and digging until they can find something negative to say about what is so obviously a positive step in the right direction. Amazing.

    I mean here is a program that has worked effectively and is wildly popular and successful in cities all over the world. Reduces traffic congestion, gets people physically active, reduces the need for parking spaces, is economically a plus for both the consumer and ultimately profitable for the city and the supplier, creates jobs, is convenient, healthy...

    All of this in a city with so many major transportation issues both in terms of public transit, road use, bridge safety and maintenance, condition of the roads, underground gas, electric, sewage and utility. And yet all this focus like looking for a needle in a haystack on how bike share is simply not going to work and will only make things worse. Give me a break. Get happy about something for once in your life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    Give me a break. Get happy about something for once in your life!
    Fugeditaboutit! Youse preaching to a Real™ NYCer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essex View Post
    . . .That said - the racks block a lot of real estate and if you have an emergency vehicle - could be tough?
    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    And a line of parked cars would be easier to negotiate in an emergency? . . . . Get happy about something for once in your life!
    Do you just want to fight and insult, buzzman, or did dirt on the your screen block Essex' question mark, positive comments and pretty pictures?

    Essex, thanks for the pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essex View Post
    Is that a dynamo taillight near the cog?
    Thanks for the pictures.

    P.S. More employment to maintain the bikes?
    The only thing I don't like is how close "Citi bike" sounds (and is written) to "Citibank", making an otherwise cool thing another banker-related stuff in NYC.
    Last edited by vol; 06-02-13 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcottay View Post
    Do you just want to fight and insult, buzzman, or did dirt on the your screen block Essex' question mark, positive comments and pretty pictures?

    Essex, thanks for the pictures.

    My apologies if I offended Essex in particular, perhaps his question was earnest and sincere. My comments are more due to a cumulative litany of negatives in several threads regarding the bike share program, which, while still in its infancy here in NYC, is a proven success in several other cities. The "emergency vehicle" argument against them is being tossed about by some opponents to the program but when examined logically has little merit as a concern.

    I'm very happy Essex thinks the Citibikes "cute" but would wish to allay him of any concerns over their quaintness superseding general safety in the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    Is that a dynamo taillight near the cog?
    Thanks for the pictures.

    P.S. More employment to maintain the bikes?
    The only thing I don't like is how close "Citi bike" sounds (and is written) to "Citibank", making an otherwise cool thing another banker-related stuff in NYC.

    There are dynamo powered "tail light" which you see located at the bottom of the seat stays near the rear hub and a flashing white light on the front of the bike. These run day and night on the bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    The only thing I don't like is how close "Citi bike" sounds (and is written) to "Citibank", making an otherwise cool thing another banker-related stuff in NYC.
    Since Citibank put up $41M in sponsorship money it's understandable that they want some advertising benefits by having the bikes appearance and logos associated with their corporate trademark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    Since Citibank put up $41M in sponsorship money it's understandable that they want some advertising benefits by having the bikes appearance and logos associated with their corporate trademark.
    OK, I can understand. What about other cities in the U.S. and other countries? Who sponsor the bike share programs? Are there indications of the bike design/appearance that advertise for the sponsors? Could we have done without Citibank? Pure curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    Since Citibank put up $41M in sponsorship money...
    41 million for a bike share program? The contractors who won those contracts must have been happy campers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcjphil View Post
    The bike frames are made of aluminum alloy. The design has been in use for years in several other cities.
    Yep,same as the ones we have in DC,only ours are red and look cooler. Also note,ride quality varies greatly from plush to harsh depending on how much air is in the tires. Around here they tend to over-air the tires so they'll go longer between checkups,this makes them ride like crap despite the wide tires.

    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    Is that a dynamo taillight near the cog?
    Sort of. They blink red,but are really dim(the white fronts are much better). If you're going to ride one of these at night,bring your own blinky.

    Also,Pro Tip:if you're going to put something in the front rack,do it while the bike is docked. The bikes become unbalanced on the kickstands when there's weight in the rack. And check your brakes before undocking;I've had several bikes that had almost no brakes. Interestingly,the only thing on these that isn't hidden behind tamper-resistant covers are the barrel adjusters down by the brake drums,so at least if there's only one bike left and the brakes are naff,you can tweak them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    And a line of parked cars would be easier to negotiate in an emergency? Well, I guess every silver lining has its dark cloud.

    Unbelievable to me that even some bicyclists are scraping and digging until they can find something negative to say about what is so obviously a positive step in the right direction. Amazing.
    But, but, but, don't they "begrime" the city? (Clutches pearls)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynaryder View Post
    Sort of. They blink red,but are really dim(the white fronts are much better). If you're going to ride one of these at night,bring your own blinky.
    I saw a guy riding citi bike on upper east side (86th street) this evening. There seemed to be two rear lights positioned at different parts, and the two alternated blinking, indeed very weak, though have good side visibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    Since Citibank put up $41M in sponsorship money it's understandable that they want some advertising benefits by having the bikes appearance and logos associated with their corporate trademark.
    Gotta launder the drug money somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    OK, I can understand. What about other cities in the U.S. and other countries? Who sponsor the bike share programs? Are there indications of the bike design/appearance that advertise for the sponsors? Could we have done without Citibank? Pure curiosity.
    I think one of the main selling points of the system was that the city wasn't paying for it.

    The most notable other corporate sponsored system is Barclays Cycle Hire in London. Barclays also sponsored a network of bike routes in London ("Barclays Cycle Superhighway").
    Last edited by degnaw; 06-02-13 at 07:32 PM.

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    It was a busy bike day in NYC today.

    This rack of bikes near Astor Place was full this morning. By the time I headed home around around 6 pm it was practically empty. I spoke with someone who works for Citibike and had come by to check the bikes. He said they had been swamped today.

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    The bikes were every where from Brooklyn to pretty far up town on the West Side bike path.


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    I spoke with two guys riding them and they said they were having a great time. They lived in NYC but were from France and said, "we use them in Paris all the time, now we can use them here."

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    I have great enthusiasm for this program. Partly because more bikes just makes a for a better city IMO, but since I don't live here year round I am also coming into the city for a day or two at a time. I generally bring my folder but I may join the bike share and just bring a helmet and back pack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    OK, I can understand. What about other cities in the U.S. and other countries? Who sponsor the bike share programs? Are there indications of the bike design/appearance that advertise for the sponsors? Could we have done without Citibank? Pure curiosity.

    It takes a sizable chunk of change to get a bike share program off the ground as well as some political clout. Corporate sponsorship seems to be the only way to do it. Were it entirely publicly funded, even if it were to ultimately pay for itself, there are those who would scream,"Socialism!"

    As it is now there are those who scream, "Corporate Tyranny!" But since those tend to be the same people that favor the bike share program those cries are more muted.

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    Thanks for the pictures. You were like a reporter interviewing riders

    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    I have great enthusiasm for this program.
    So do I, even though I have my own bike and may never use them. Just seeing them makes me smile. This business city needs some life-style changes and more colorful sights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vol View Post
    Thanks for the pictures. You were like a reporter interviewing riders



    So do I, even though I have my own bike and may never use them. Just seeing them makes me smile. This business city needs some life-style changes and more colorful sights.

    When I asked the two French guys about the bikes we were stopped at a light in the West Village. Another cyclist joined in the conversation as well as two people on the sidewalk- all enthusiastic about the bikes.

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    This will teach the wall-streeters to breathe fresh air and enjoy healthy life every day. Also makes poor people to afford some healthy transportation means. It is a great thing for the whole population, regardless social and economic status.

    (the crisp new bikes do make my own bike seem old and rusty )

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
    But, but, but, don't they "begrime" the city? (Clutches pearls)

    Yep. There goes the neighborhood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    It was a busy bike day in NYC today.

    This rack of bikes near Astor Place was full this morning. By the time I headed home around around 6 pm it was practically empty. I spoke with someone who works for Citibike and had come by to check the bikes. He said they had been swamped today.

    image.jpg

    The bikes were every where from Brooklyn to pretty far up town on the West Side bike path.


    image.jpg

    I spoke with two guys riding them and they said they were having a great time. They lived in NYC but were from France and said, "we use them in Paris all the time, now we can use them here."

    image.jpg

    I have great enthusiasm for this program. Partly because more bikes just makes a for a better city IMO, but since I don't live here year round I am also coming into the city for a day or two at a time. I generally bring my folder but I may join the bike share and just bring a helmet and back pack.


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    Looks like an ebil, dangerous, socialist, corporatist, greenie, hippie, atheist, muslim, communist, nazi, republican, democratic, fundamentalist christian conspiracy!

    Nice job on the pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    And a line of parked cars would be easier to negotiate in an emergency?
    Exactly.. why is the emergency vehicle thing even an argument?

    In the space of like maybe half a dozen car parking spaces you can fit 2-3 dozen bikes.. seems like pretty efficient use of space to me. If there is an emergency, the fire truck or whatever parks beside the rack as they would beside a row of cars. The street is cordoned off as usual.

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