I have vehicles ceding their right of way to me almost every day. Maybe people are nicer in PA? Or maybe it's the way I ride.
That's also true; my roads are all 35mph or higher, so unless stopped by traffic or a red light, the cars that pass me will never been seen again. Here in PA, it's an unspoken rule that you can go 5mph over the speed limit. I would be minorly upset at a biker going 23-25 when traffic is moving at 30-35, especially if the right edge was clear of debris and obstacles.
I really don't like cyclist snobs, flying through town in spandex, riding down the middle of the road when there is no reason to, and always complaining about cagers and how cars ruin the planet. They make a bad image for the rest of us.
You see, in traffic most of the time cyclists are held back by cars and some of the time cars are held back by cyclists, but for some reason if a car is held back by a cyclist it is the end of the world.
OR statutes specifically allow cyclists to filter on the right of a right-hand lane. I believe most states have similar statutes. Moreover, many "filtering" and "lane-splitting" statutes specifically refer to motorcycles, making lane-splitting and filtering by cyclists a legal grey area.I simply pointed out that the activity you proposed (filtering) is illegal in many areas of the country
In particular, as has been mentioned here, filtering, or using a shoulder to pass a line of cars waiting at an intersection and then moving into the lane, is illegal in most places in the US... If your riding in a bike lane or shoulder and continue to do so past the intersection one is not FILTERING.
This is simply another example of where you feel your entitled to break your traffic laws as you state in post #29...
I'd annoy you then.I would be minorly upset at a biker going 23-25 when traffic is moving at 30-35, especially if the right edge was clear of debris and obstacles.
I prefer casual mtb- or climbing-style shorts because I have nice callouses and shammy pads annoy me.I really don't like cyclist snobs, flying through town in spandex, riding down the middle of the road when there is no reason to
Last edited by spare_wheel; 06-18-13 at 02:32 PM.
In OR, cyclists travelling at the prevailing speed of traffic (very easy to do during rush hour) have a right to the full lane.In particular, as has been mentioned here, filtering, or using a shoulder to pass a line of cars waiting at an intersection and then moving into the lane, is illegal in most places in the US... If your riding in a bike lane or shoulder and continue to do so past the intersection one is not FILTERING.
Its a speed limit. Let me repeat...L-I-M-I-T.Because even if the roads have 25mph speed limits, the vast majority of cyclists, at least those who don't routinely ride professionally DO NOT TRAVEL AT GREATER THAN 20MPH... hence not travelling at the speed limit of most roads.
Erm...what others? Most states have no statutes that address lane splitting.And only two (that I am aware of) states have laws against lane splitting that are restricted to motorcycles. The others apply to any vehicle capable of such manoeuvres...
The thing is I'm quite happy to soft pedal rather than hammer to the point where the lane narrows.
If instead I merged into the traffic before the light I'd be blocking everything behind me.
Admittedly this works best with lights that are not overly long. So all the cars that make the light can easily pass me and I have a clear lane to hammer once that is done.
Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.
It's not that I mind offending people from time to time, but I prefer to do it on purpose, not by failing to understand that a particular label gives offense.
That's gonna leave a mark.
If they would just politely travel behind me at 20 mph, they would hit each light on a green and the motorist would save a bunch of gas by not racing to red lights at 35 mph and then coming to a complete stop.
It seems just too hard for so many motorist (and I guess some cyclist here) to figure out that traffic lights are timed to match rush hour average flow, and that trying to travel faster is just a stupid waste and can irritate courteous cyclist, who will then ride past them to match the timing of the upcoming green light.
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
A few points:
1. Motorists will hate on cyclists because they believe with all their hearts that the roads, and the COUNTRY, belong to them that DRIVE. If you DRIVE 15, you're considered an ass, but you're still a fellow driver; if you ride *25*, you're still trespassing on "their" territory.
2. IT DOES NOT MATTER what the filtering laws are in MOST states; the only filtering law that matters for ANY of us is the one in the state(s) where we ride. In my state, filtering is illegal. NOR does it matter about breathing exhaust, or anyone's 'feelings' -- you disobey the law, you are open to official resolution. Do so at your own risk.
3. "breathing exhaust" is virtually the same on the road, no matter where you are; there are no filters in most cars, it seeps in (or blows in when the fan is running) the interior all the time. There is the unresolved debate about a faster-breathing cyclist either: a.)breathing more in by faster respiration; or b.)flushing the lungs out through the faster action of air exchange -- pick a side. (I personally prefer NOT to be enclosed with the fumes.) But sitting behind a car just focuses the STENCH, that's really all.
I find it rude to filter up and make everyone pass me again.
Last edited by spare_wheel; 06-18-13 at 07:12 PM.