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Old 07-22-13, 04:55 PM   #1
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"Jaywalking" history

The relevancy to cycling is the similar sort of "shaming".

http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-i...ampa-858926923
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Old 07-22-13, 06:41 PM   #2
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A classic, blame the victim takeover of our public ways.
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Old 07-23-13, 09:20 AM   #3
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I understand that they had to put new laws on the books to accommodate cars and their interactions with pedestrians. I hadn't realized that "jaywalking" was a derogatory term or that society, in general had such a low regard for rural folks. I guess I had kind of thought "country bumpkin" as an almost endearing term, (maybe that's because of my growing up in Texas).
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The campaign to convince people that roads belong to cars, full stop, has worked so well that any other arrangement seems nearly unthinkable to people. I've mentioned during conversations about the DC area that I think it'd be really neat if some of the more popular chunks of the city (like Dupont Circle) became carless, car restricted, or very low speed limit zones, it'd be great, as there's many more people that desire to walk and bike there, and no real reason to have cars there other than deliveries anyway. People's reaction to this is almost uniformly that it's absolute lunacy; the idea of having streets that are primarily for everyone rather than exclusively for cars just doesn't penetrate even the first smell test for people.
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I understand that they had to put new laws on the books to accommodate cars and their interactions with pedestrians. I hadn't realized that "jaywalking" was a derogatory term or that society, in general had such a low regard for rural folks. I guess I had kind of thought "country bumpkin" as an almost endearing term, (maybe that's because of my growing up in Texas).
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our fair city saw fit some time in the past to turn the downtown into a 4 way highway with the businesses in the median. There is great resistance to change that crazy arrangement, even though it almost surely would be a boon to the downtown businesses. The lights are crazy long to cross the roads, they pretty much expect you to jaywalk
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Note: "jaywalking" is not universally illegal.
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Ah yes, at one time society moved at walking pace... cyclists blended in with other vehicle perfectly and then the age of the automobile came along and it was given carte blanche over everything else on the road... and we have all suffered since.

Interesting that someone noted that trollies used to carry 500 or so along a route, but when the individual motor vehicle came along the throughput actually went down.
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Seems like the laws against jaywalking are enforced primarily when they can provide a convenient excuse for harassment. Only once have I heard of any actual enforcement; that was around 1975–1980 in central Denver. Jaywalking would get you a ticket — but only if you happened to be doing it in front of a gay bar. That happened so frequently that people who lived in the area called it gaywalking.


If your area has laws against jaywalking, are they enforced?
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The campaign to convince people that roads belong to cars, full stop, has worked so well that any other arrangement seems nearly unthinkable to people. I've mentioned during conversations about the DC area that I think it'd be really neat if some of the more popular chunks of the city (like Dupont Circle) became carless, car restricted, or very low speed limit zones, it'd be great, as there's many more people that desire to walk and bike there, and no real reason to have cars there other than deliveries anyway. People's reaction to this is almost uniformly that it's absolute lunacy; the idea of having streets that are primarily for everyone rather than exclusively for cars just doesn't penetrate even the first smell test for people.
No kidding. Try and excercise your right to assemble and air your grievances sometime! The roads are only for cars 24/7x366 is everyones attitude.
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