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Old 07-29-13, 10:06 AM   #1
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Motorist shouted at me today

I took the bike out today for a spin in the sunshine. Approaching a roundabout I slowed to give priority to the car approaching from the right (as required in the UK), then took my turn. A car approaching from my left (i.e. it was supposed to yield to me) made a nasty crunching sound as it rammed on the brakes hard. For a while I thought it was going to come out anyway into the side of me.

Anyway as it approached from behind I wasn't sure whether it was going to turn into a "situation", so turned and looked annoyed at the driver. The passenger window was down and the passenger shouted at me. But what she shouted was "Sorry".

So I waved and that was the end of the "situation". We all make mistakes once in a while...
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Ha. Well played, sir.
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I saw a motorist shout at a cyclist during the STP. A group of us riders stopped for a red light. A few seconds later an STP rider blew through the intersection at about 15-18 mph. A driver in an opposing lane leaned out his window and said "What the he77 are you doing?" the rider gave him the finger and went on as a chorus of "WTF a hole" rose from us. A few of us caught up with him 10 minutes later and politely expressed our opinion on his ancestry, mental health and likely achievement of a Darwin Award. We thanked him for wearing his bib number.
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she shouted "Sorry".
At least most motorist get it or are at least neutral. No if we could just get rid of the 1% of the dangerous motorist and wrong way cyclist.
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"rotaries" here in the US are pretty tricky and I ride one on a busy highway sometimes. I usually get my timing correct but the last time I messed up and was lucky no one got mad or yelled at me. I usually get into the rotary when there is a lull in the traffic and stay to the right but hold my lane as best I can until I exit 1/3 the way around. I have to pass one incoming lane on my right and they usually see my strobe and slow for me with no trouble. the last time I went into the rotary prematurely causing the speeding traffic to slow just for me, and someone who wanted to exit really had to slow so I could get out of their way, then the entering traffic on my right was quite brisk and really had to slow to accomodate me. after I exited I felt a bit embarrassed that I had not handled it better that day. when I tell local people that I ride through that rotary/intersection they give me the "u r nutz" stare.
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At least most motorist get it or are at least neutral. No if we could just get rid of the 1% of the dangerous motorist and wrong way cyclist.
I doubt we will ever get rid of the wrong way riders. The last one I saw was in a bike lane that had the arrows clearly painted.

A double Darwin candidate. He has his near baby child in front of him on the bike.
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"rotaries" here in the US are pretty tricky and I ride one on a busy highway sometimes. I usually get my timing correct but the last time I messed up and was lucky no one got mad or yelled at me. I usually get into the rotary when there is a lull in the traffic and stay to the right but hold my lane as best I can until I exit 1/3 the way around. I have to pass one incoming lane on my right and they usually see my strobe and slow for me with no trouble. the last time I went into the rotary prematurely causing the speeding traffic to slow just for me, and someone who wanted to exit really had to slow so I could get out of their way, then the entering traffic on my right was quite brisk and really had to slow to accommodate me. after I exited I felt a bit embarrassed that I had not handled it better that day. when I tell local people that I ride through that rotary/intersection they give me the "u r nutz" stare.
Here in the states, we should have way more roundabouts or traffic circles that we do have. Not only do they move traffic more efficiently and safely . . . they are loads of fun. Most Americans are stupid about knowing how to traverse one.
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Here in the states, we should have way more roundabouts or traffic circles that we do have. Not only do they move traffic more efficiently and safely . . . they are loads of fun. Most Americans are stupid about knowing how to traverse one.
They make a lot more sense than 4-way stop signs everywhere. It's amazing just how much slower you go if you actually do stop at every stop sign, not to mention the catastrophic effect on fuel economy.

In the UK we have a lot of Give Way signs (which are equivalent to US Yield signs) and only have stop signs where it's difficult to see whether the way is clear until you reach the very end of the junction. In the US where you have them at just about every junction even when you can see for a mile along the road in both directions all it does is devalue them. I'm a big proponent of not demanding that traffic come to a complete halt unless it's actually necessary for it to do so.
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...I'm a big proponent of not demanding that traffic come to a complete halt unless it's actually necessary for it to do so.
Translation: The police are no where around, let's roll...Stop sign (?)...I don't see no stupid stop sign.
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Translation: The police are no where around, let's roll...Stop sign (?)...I don't see no stupid stop sign.
Nope -- translation: there's too damned many stop signs around, let's have more YIELD.
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Nope -- translation: there's too damned many stop signs around, let's have more YIELD.
That's more like it. It makes more sense to have appropriate signs that people obey than endless pointless signs that people ignore.
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That's more like it. It makes more sense to have appropriate signs that people obey than endless pointless signs that people ignore.
Unless or course, you are a city looking for revenue.
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Unless or course, you are a city looking for revenue.
... which doesn't explain why roads in the back end of nowhere still expect motorists to come to a complete stop when turning from one road into another, when neither road carries more than a couple of cars in an average hour.
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To allow room and time for Coyote and Road Runner, I'm guessing..... There's really no other reason.
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