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Z R I D E R 07-29-13 09:34 PM

My First Near Miss
 
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Be me at a four way intersection about to make a left turn. I signaled to get into the left lane and turned my head to make sure traffic saw me. I then made it to the left lane and had to yield to oncoming traffic.
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I stopped there, foot down, hand signal out the entire time so the drivers behind me could see I was preparing to make a left turn.
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Waiting for traffic still, I hear the car behind me and it's not slowing down whatsoever.
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Instead, the driver slams on his horn for a good 10 seconds as he comes from behind me at around 30-35 mph.
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He narrowly misses clipping me by a couple inches.
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After that, I catch my breath and proceed to make my left turn. I realize that there was a car right next to him in the other lane, and he probably wanted to change lanes to avoid me but couldn't. Instead of slowing down however, he just acted as if he had the right of way.
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I finally complete the turn after giving him some of my bike horn. With all of the adrenaline going I forgot one of the most important things - license plate.
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One thing's for sure, I'm ordering the RZ-8 asap.

FBinNY 07-29-13 11:03 PM

Please take this in the spirit of good will, but as they say, close only counts in horseshoes.

If you ride in city traffic for any length of time, there will be all sorts of close passes, and near (hopefully) misses. The jerk might have gauged that he had room to pass, and apparently he was right, though he had no business leaning on the horn. OTOH- he might have been leaning on the horn because he felt there was a real danger of collision, in which he was even more of a jerk, using the horn instead of the brakes.

10 Wheels 07-29-13 11:09 PM

Sometimes it is best to go straight, U -Turn then , Right turn to get where you need to go.

Beats being a sitting duck in the middle of a busy intersection.

FBinNY 07-29-13 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 15903067)
Sometimes it is best to go straight, U -Turn then , Right turn to get where you need to go.

Beats being a sitting duck in the middle of a busy intersection.

That's a judgement call. Sometimes I'll make a "kiddy left" stopping at the far corner, and going with the crossing traffic when the light changes, but I reserve this for when the flow of traffic makes it too difficult to move left as I approach the intersection.

However, the OP was across the traffic and properly positioned for a left, and the driver should either have waited as he would have behind a car, or changed lanes to the right to pass. The problem is that there are a good number of jerks on the road.

Chris516 07-29-13 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 15903067)
Sometimes it is best to go straight, U -Turn then , Right turn to get where you need to go.

Beats being a sitting duck in the middle of a busy intersection.

I have done that sometimes.

spivonious 07-30-13 07:20 AM

This is why I sit right in the middle of the left lane for left turns. No room for someone to pass me on the right.

genec 07-30-13 07:36 AM

What the heck is an RZ-8?

Clarabelle 07-30-13 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by genec (Post 15903698)
What the heck is an RZ-8?

+1 ???

Looigi 07-30-13 07:54 AM

Yeah. I occasionally get honked at making left turns from traffic lanes or even left turn lanes simply because many drivers don't think I should be doing that or have the right to be doing it. One thing I keep harping on is that we need more education and awareness programs (ads, billboards,TV and radio spots) about sharing the road, not for cyclists but for motor vehicle operators. Spend some advocacy money on this.

rumrunn6 07-30-13 08:00 AM

maybe it's this?:

http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-...-a-838868.html

dynodonn 07-30-13 08:04 AM

Bad street design, no safe provisions for left turning traffic whether it's motorized or not.

dynodonn 07-30-13 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Z R I D E R (Post 15902812)
I finally complete the turn after giving him some of my bike horn. With all of the adrenaline going I forgot one of the most important things - license plate.

Unless you have a photographic memory, chances are in that you may not have gotten the license number anyway. My memory aid choice are my two Contour cameras, since they can be better at recalling license numbers than myself. My most memorable near miss was done at mere inches as well, but the motorist did not get fully get away with their aggressive driving behavior. My cameras not only "clicked off" his license numbers, but his vehicle model emblems, bumper sticker, and rear window decal. Also, I was able to see in my videos, the motorist looking directly at me before the pass, and in their side rear view mirror as they passed me, all this was done at a 40 mph speed "differential.

jerseyJim 07-30-13 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spivonious (Post 15903639)
This is why I sit right in the middle of the left lane for left turns. No room for someone to pass me on the right.

+1

Yeah I can never manage to get a plate number in the heat of the moment. Not that LE will likely do anything about it unless they have to bother scraping you off the hood of a car.

ItsJustMe 07-30-13 09:55 AM

If RZ-8 is a light, I don't see how it would make any difference. The driver clearly saw you. The defense is to stay far enough left to prevent in-lane passing, if you don't want them to pass in the lane.

Z R I D E R 07-30-13 10:41 AM

Hi everyone,

Yes the RZ-8 is the Red Zone 8, an extremely bright tail light that I really think will improve my experience and treatment on the road. I will also pair that with reflective clothing.

When this happened I was actually as close to the middle of the left lane as I could get, but the driver still found room in the middle of the intersection to pass me on my right, without hitting the other car next to him (I don't know how he found room). I always try to "take the lane".

If I had money to spend I would get a camera or two for license plate reading, but I just don't have any money for that. I'll try for now to improve my reading of plates in the "heat of the moment".

Z R I D E R 07-30-13 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Looigi (Post 15903767)
Yeah. I occasionally get honked at making left turns from traffic lanes or even left turn lanes simply because many drivers don't think I should be doing that or have the right to be doing it. One thing I keep harping on is that we need more education and awareness programs (ads, billboards,TV and radio spots) about sharing the road, not for cyclists but for motor vehicle operators. Spend some advocacy money on this.

I completely agree, and this driver probably had that mindset. There should be a section on your road test or during that pre-licensing course that thoroughly explains sharing the road and rights of cyclists.

Number400 07-30-13 10:56 AM

It boggles my mind that people will not bother to slow down even when a dangerous situation is unfolding in front of them. It's like rolling the dice whether or not the situation clears before they get there and can have tragic consequences that they cannot even imagine. I see zero regard for anyone's safety every day that I commute.

spare_wheel 07-30-13 12:08 PM

If you are going to take the lane to make a left be sure that you assert your right to the full lane. Do not give them room to pass.


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