Central Ohio Hit & Run Murder
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The prosecutor does convey the opinions of the people regarding feedback on such.
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https://www.cleveland.com/steubenvill...dictments.html
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Unless the murder statutes on Ohio are very different from those in new York, this is the highest charge possible. To charge or prove Murder there would have to be clear intent to do so. I doubt he could prove she had a grudge against her victim, or was just out hunting by car, so There's no intent as defined by the law.
Under the law, this crime is comparable with discharging a firearm randomely in a crowded area and killing someone or manslaughter, not murder.
Under the law, this crime is comparable with discharging a firearm randomely in a crowded area and killing someone or manslaughter, not murder.
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I am supporting the charge of VOLUNTARY manslaughter, as opposed to the INVOLUNTARY manslaughter charge leveled. She wasn't just careless, she displayed glaring recklessness in both failing to wear her corrective lenses and being intoxicated with substances that she knew or should have known that when they are in her system she is not fit to drive.
This is another symptom of a much larger societal problem.
She is not alone in making those mistakes, I bet millions of others exhibit the same behavior on a daily basis.
Why was she on that medication in the first place would be my first question?
That medication seems to be the root cause of impairment, as well as a lack of knowledge and perhaps a lack of concern for other road users that might be affected by her impairment.
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Killing someone with a car is just as bad as killing someone with a gun or a knife. In addition she wasnt wearing glasses and may have been under the influence of drugs. That makes it worse. She should get the max possible.
Also the father should be tried with tampering with evidence!
Also the father should be tried with tampering with evidence!
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So how will this prevent someone else from making the same poor judgement?
This is another symptom of a much larger societal problem.
She is not alone in making those mistakes, I bet millions of others exhibit the same behavior on a daily basis.
Why was she on that medication in the first place would be my first question?
That medication seems to be the root cause of impairment, as well as a lack of knowledge and perhaps a lack of concern for other road users that might be affected by her impairment.
This is another symptom of a much larger societal problem.
She is not alone in making those mistakes, I bet millions of others exhibit the same behavior on a daily basis.
Why was she on that medication in the first place would be my first question?
That medication seems to be the root cause of impairment, as well as a lack of knowledge and perhaps a lack of concern for other road users that might be affected by her impairment.
The woman is suffering from diabetic neuropathy which pretty much means she is in pain all the time. People in this situation frequently commit suicide. The cocktail of drugs she is taking is so that she can get on with her life. What needs to happen is that doctors, pharmacists and other medical professionals need to be more clear that driving under these circumstances is not permitted or legal. Additionally there needs to be better health care infrastructure for allowing people to get on with their lives when they are not medically capable of driving. If people don't feel like they have any choice but to drive they will continue to drive even if it is illegal or dangerous.
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I've got to disagree with the prosecutor giving her involuntary manslaughter. She was stoned on meds that advise against driving. She was willfully not wearing her glasses that are required when she drives. That kind of reckless disregard for human life should warrant the maximum charges and sentence. I hope the judge at least considers what a bag of dirt she is when he sentences her, hopefully to consecutive maximums.
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Finally senteced
Two Links below...
Bottom line 4.5 year sentence.
Local paper,
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...-sentence.html
Steve Magas, bike lawyer...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...16310091736573
Bottom line 4.5 year sentence.
Local paper,
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...-sentence.html
Steve Magas, bike lawyer...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...16310091736573
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Have warnings on prescription drugs, perception of the danger of prescription pharmaceuticals, and liability regarding prescription pharmaceuticals been relaxed in the past few decades...?
Is this case a cause or a symptom? Should liability for this death end with father and daughter?
Is this case a cause or a symptom? Should liability for this death end with father and daughter?
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Ridiculous letter to the editor..
From Columbus Dispatch letter to the editor,
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ar8ji8-20.html
Unbelievable!
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ar8ji8-20.html
Unbelievable!
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From Columbus Dispatch letter to the editor,
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ar8ji8-20.html
Unbelievable!
https://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ar8ji8-20.html
Unbelievable!
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I'm sure definitions vary by state, but murder usually implies intent to kill, whereas manslaughter is killing someone without actually intending to, for example through criminal negligence.
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