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Number400 09-24-13 10:36 AM

How about the two survivors, any update? So much focus on the asshat driver, let's not forget the other riders who are currently suffering physical pain. I hate how the media just says "non life-threatening injuries", these other folks may now be sentenced to a much different life of constant pain and/or a disability.

Metaluna 09-24-13 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Number400 (Post 16099148)
How about the two survivors, any update? So much focus on the asshat driver, let's not forget the other riders who are currently suffering physical pain. I hate how the media just says "non life-threatening injuries", these other folks may now be sentenced to a much different life of constant pain and/or a disability.

I recall reading somewhere that one of them, (first name is Uwe I think) was in the hospital with a number of broken bones but was expected to be released in a few days and make a relatively full recovery, so that's some good news. I don't know about the other victim.

gabedad 09-24-13 12:09 PM

I came upon the scene about 2-3 minutes after it happened. Very sad. It was in the back of your mind during the ride (just trying to make it on my first century) When I got home, and even now I can't stop thinking about it. I was interviewed here:

http://www.necn.com/09/21/13/Friends...9&feedID=11106


They should close the bridge on one lane to bikes next year.

That girl should be in jail NOW

Bikey Mikey 09-24-13 02:10 PM

Most heartfelt sympathies to the family and friends.

side_FX 09-24-13 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eofelis (Post 16099118)
That's a good lead, but maybe not. (read to bottom of article)

True, I don't claim to know anything. I just put a few pieces together out of my frustration about how this should never have happened. Both the driver and the town govt. guy I refered to are from a nearby town, not Hampton, NH. They could be related, maybe Pop-pop? Maybe that will come out if at all relevant. I'm not sure how the politics work up there and maybe it's just a coincidence that she may have a relative high in local government. Just my conspiracy theories at work. I'd like to know who owns that care and how any familiy memebr would let their 19 yr old drive without any training or certifcation to prove she knew how to operate a motor vehicle. I think the officer does owe the family of the vicitms a visit to explain why he let the unliscenced, double the speed limit violating person free...free to run down and kill their loved ones. I need to stop. My head hurts.

mbailey 09-24-13 03:09 PM

The driver of the car has been charged with two counts of negligent homicide and two counts of felony assault. She should now be in custody and will be arraigned tomorrow. This is likely to cost her several years of her life. And it should.

eofelis 09-24-13 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mbailey (Post 16100010)
The driver of the car has been charged with two counts of negligent homicide and two counts of felony assault. She should now be in custody and will be arraigned tomorrow. This is likely to cost her several years of her life. And it should.

Arrested.

Each charge carries a penalty of three-and-a-half to seven years in prison and a fine of $4,000.

That's it??

mbailey 09-24-13 03:53 PM

Each ASSAULT charge carries a penalty of 3.5 to 7.5 years. The penalty for negligent homicide is not stated in the article.

B. Carfree 09-24-13 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eofelis (Post 16100146)
Arrested.

Each charge carries a penalty of three-and-a-half to seven years in prison and a fine of $4,000.

That's it??

In light of her prior behavior, just eight hours before the killing spree, maybe she will get the maximum sentence on all four counts. That would protect society from her for nearly three decades. I'm good with that.

mbailey 09-24-13 04:22 PM

Looks like this is updated. Each of the four charges carries a 3.5 to 7.5 year penalty. The negligent homicide charges could be upgraded to vehicular manslaughter, for which the penalty is undoubtedly more severe.

eofelis 09-24-13 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mbailey (Post 16100254)
Looks like this is updated. Each of the four charges carries a 3.5 to 7.5 year penalty. The negligent homicide charges could be upgraded to vehicular manslaughter, for which the penalty is undoubtedly more severe.

Thanks for the update.

and welcome to Bikeforums mbailey.

genec 09-24-13 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by B. Carfree (Post 16100163)
In light of her prior behavior, just eight hours before the killing spree, maybe she will get the maximum sentence on all four counts. That would protect society from her for nearly three decades. I'm good with that.

I wonder what lame excuses will be used to defend this woman... Especially with her short record.

seeker333 09-24-13 05:48 PM

Pretty young women tend to get off easy - my guess is she does little to no time.

We had a guy here run down a line of LBS riders from behind in daylight on a flat, straight road, struck several, killed one, several of the bicyclists/witnesses insisted it was not accidental. He took a plea bargain and served only 3 months, on weekends!

http://www.wrdw.com/news/crimeteam12...132055108.html

Metaluna 09-24-13 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker333 (Post 16100549)
Pretty young women tend to get off easy - my guess is she does little to no time.

Given how light the penalties are for the charges filed, and combined with the possibility of a plea bargain, parole, etc. I'm afraid you may be right :(

B. Carfree 09-24-13 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by genec (Post 16100387)
I wonder what lame excuses will be used to defend this woman... Especially with her short record.

Orphan defense.

John E 09-24-13 08:16 PM

Driving while texting should carry the same penalties as DUI.

side_FX 09-24-13 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by B. Carfree (Post 16100647)
Orphan defense.

I feel for the fact that her mom died suddenly when she was young. I don't know the circumstances of her dads incarceration, but obviously also a sad story for her. That still offers no justification for getting behind the wheel a mere HOURS after getting a warning not to do so. So now two other kids don't have a mom DIRECTLY because of her actions. She better do serious real jail time, please make an example of her so others think twice before doing something illegal.

Essex 09-25-13 04:31 AM

At the end of the day it's the fact of the case that count. And I do hope she serves the appropriate time for killing two women. Women who had a great life ahead of them with their families.

That said - justice is often funny.

mconlonx 09-25-13 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by seeker333 (Post 16100549)
Pretty young women tend to get off easy - my guess is she does little to no time.

3.5 years, to be served concurrently, credit for time served, some kind of possibility to get out early... <-- wish that was just a silly, unheard of scenario...

howsteepisit 09-25-13 06:24 AM

Tried, Convicted, sentenced, paroled, and complained about the sentence. All before the actual arraignment. Good God, what a fine example of waiting for the facts, and American justice. This is one of the most pathetic lynch mobs I have ever seen or heard of.

spivonious 09-25-13 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by howsteepisit (Post 16101784)
Tried, Convicted, sentenced, paroled, and complained about the sentence. All before the actual arraignment. Good God, what a fine example of waiting for the facts, and American justice. This is one of the most pathetic lynch mobs I have ever seen or heard of.

I agree with you, but you have to understand that this hits the bike forums members pretty close to home. We've all read about previous cases where the driver got off with a fine only or very little jail time. You have to expect us to be a bit jaded.

Personally, I hope they convict her of all four charges and that whoever sentences her takes into account the fact that she was stopped for major speeding and driving without a license less than 12 hours before.

PatrickGSR94 09-25-13 07:34 AM

Woman in FL got 20 years for killing a cyclist and leaving the scene. This woman should get 40, minimum.

unterhausen 09-25-13 08:08 AM

she didn't leave the scene. The problem for her is the earlier ticket and no license. Under normal circumstances, given no dui, there is some pretty good likelihood that they couldn't figure out how to convict her of anything. The fact that she has been charged with some pretty serious charges is a break from the norm of, "no drugs, no foul"

squirtdad 09-25-13 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 16102122)
she didn't leave the scene. The problem for her is the earlier ticket and no license. Under normal circumstances, given no dui, there is some pretty good likelihood that they couldn't figure out how to convict her of anything. The fact that she has been charged with some pretty serious charges is a break from the norm of, "no drugs, no foul"

What I have seen locally, is that previous pattern of behaviors makes a huge difference in charging. this seems like the case here.... no license/speeding get warning. Driving after that and fatal collision show pattern of reckless behavior and bring the heavy charges.

10 Wheels 09-25-13 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 16102122)
she didn't leave the scene. The problem for her is the earlier ticket and no license. Under normal circumstances, given no dui, there is some pretty good likelihood that they couldn't figure out how to convict her of anything. The fact that she has been charged with some pretty serious charges is a break from the norm of, "no drugs, no foul"

Her car was not drivable....Pic in the Video.

http://www.necn.com/09/25/13/19-year...5&feedID=11106


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