Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Advocacy & Safety
Reload this Page >

Two more gone, in NH

Notices
Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

Two more gone, in NH

Old 09-21-13, 01:26 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PatrickGSR94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Memphis TN area
Posts: 7,391

Bikes: 2011 Felt Z85 (road/commuter), 2006 Marin Pine Mountain (utility/commuter E-bike), 1995 KHS Alite 1000 (gravel grinder)

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 676 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Two more gone, in NH

Sad sad sad

https://www.boston.com/news/local/new...XRK/story.html
PatrickGSR94 is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 02:18 PM
  #2  
-
 
seeker333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,865

Bikes: yes!

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 282 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 36 Posts
https://www.wcvb.com/news/local/bosto...l/-/index.html

It's hard to believe this could happen on such a short bridge with wide shoulders and a center passing lane:

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=U...4715,-70.85239
seeker333 is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 04:14 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
howsteepisit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 4,335

Bikes: Canyon Endurace SLX 8Di2

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 14 Posts
Report I read says driver crossed centerline and hit cyclists going the opposite direction. Hoping it was a mechanical failure, else it was one form or another murder. I am betting it was texting, but no proof as of yet.
howsteepisit is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 04:51 PM
  #4  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,788
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Wonder how many are gonna have to die before some people HERE get a clue that it's a problem.
DX-MAN is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 05:52 PM
  #5  
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,218

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1346 Post(s)
Liked 1,234 Times in 615 Posts
Darn....While driving to do some shopping I was beside Two different cars that had drivers texting, not looking at anything else.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 06:30 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
mconlonx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,558
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7148 Post(s)
Liked 134 Times in 92 Posts
Holy Cow! This is the next town over from the bike shop where I work. This is the big ride of the year for the Seacoast. I'm volunteering tomorrow for one of the neutral support mechanic stations. This is horrible...

https://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-130929956
mconlonx is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 06:48 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Jakedatc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts
A friend and his wife were on that ride today.. behind the accident so they weren't involved luckily.. makes me sad and angry that it hit that close to home. hopefully She is charged appropriately.

Last edited by Jakedatc; 09-21-13 at 06:56 PM.
Jakedatc is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 07:09 PM
  #8  
The Rock Cycle
 
eofelis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western Colorado
Posts: 1,691

Bikes: Salsa Vaya Ti, Specialized Ruby, Gunnar Sport, Motobecane Fantom CXX, Jamis Dragon, Novara Randonee x2

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 6 Posts
Very sad. The riders involved are from the Massachusetts North Shore area, where I grew up.

Very sad bicycle week here as a touring cyclist passing through was hit from behind and died, by a DUI driver who was on her way to a hearing for her previous DUI arrest.
__________________
Gunnar Sport
Specialized Ruby
Salsa Vaya Ti
Novara Randonee x2
Motobecane Fantom CXX
Jamis Dakar XCR
eofelis is offline  
Old 09-21-13, 07:34 PM
  #9  
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 380

Bikes: 2024 Specialized Tarmac SL8Pro, 2022 Specialized Epic Evo, 2021 Framed Alaskan Fatbike,2019 Trek Emonda SL6 Pro, 2018 Trek Stache 9.7, 2013 Specialized Roubaix SL4 Expert, 2009 Ritchey Breakaway Cross, 2016 Lynskey ProCross, 2008 Trek T1000 Tandem,

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Wow that is very sad, and close to home too

I usually ride this event, I've got 20+ friends up there for the weekend right now. This is the first year in the last 8 or 9 we haven't gone. One reason we didn't go back is the traffic and the bad drivers we encountered the last few years. Some parts of the route the roads are narrow and Saturdays they can be busy when locals are trying to get out to do erands etc. We had a driver tormenting us on last years ride, he just about drove us and about 12 other riders off the road. There were many other drivers passing too close and honking horns etc. The locals don't seem to pleased to have 1600 riders on their roads. We elected to do a more rural western Massachusetts ride today instead.

It sounds like this driver lost control for some reason and the riders had no way to avoid a car heading straight at them.
Be safe out there everyone.
ct-vt-trekker is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 12:49 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: S.E CT.
Posts: 1,509

Bikes: I've lost my mind!

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by ct-vt-trekker
Wow that is very sad, and close to home too

I usually ride this event, I've got 20+ friends up there for the weekend right now. This is the first year in the last 8 or 9 we haven't gone. One reason we didn't go back is the traffic and the bad drivers we encountered the last few years. Some parts of the route the roads are narrow and Saturdays they can be busy when locals are trying to get out to do erands etc. We had a driver tormenting us on last years ride, he just about drove us and about 12 other riders off the road. There were many other drivers passing too close and honking horns etc. The locals don't seem to pleased to have 1600 riders on their roads. We elected to do a more rural western Massachusetts ride today instead.

It sounds like this driver lost control for some reason and the riders had no way to avoid a car heading straight at them.
Be safe out there everyone.
Just terrible, really sounds like a texter to me.
otg is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 02:56 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,221

Bikes: Niner RLT 9 RDO, Gunnar Sport, Soma Saga, Workswell WCBR-146

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 114 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 19 Posts
I was on the ride and arrived at the bridge just as the emergency vehicles were responding. The police had already closed the bridge by then, so I didn't see anything. I don't have much information to add, other than to contradict what a previous poster said about the bridge. It is not a wide bridge with shoulders and a center lane. It is extremely narrow, with no shoulders, and a grid deck in the center of the span (it is a drawbridge). Google Street View will give you a good idea what it's like. There is a narrow sidewalk on one side, which I often walk my bike across in the summer, because it is absolutely terrifying to cross this bridge with angry tourists packing the lanes in both directions. But the sidewalk is on the northbound side, so if you're heading south, good luck crossing the road to get to/from the walkway. That's probably more dangerous than riding across.

It is extremely sad that this happened on the 40th year of this very popular ride. What's especially puzzling is that there is a heavy police presence on the north side of the bridge, because the start of the ride is right there. There is a cop stationed there at all times, stopping traffic to let riders leave the parking lot and make the left onto the bridge. Since the reports say she crossed into the northbound lane, she would have been heading south, meaning she must have driven right by the police officer. At that time of the morning there would have been many bikes on the road. There's no way she could have been surprised by cyclists on the bridge.
Metaluna is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 06:51 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,501

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5216 Post(s)
Liked 3,555 Times in 2,325 Posts
2 women cyclists killed during New Hampshire ride, 2 more injured Saturday

A car slammed into a group of bicyclists Saturday during an annual bicycling club ride along the New England coastline, killing two riders and injuring two others, police said.

https://www.wcvb.com/news/local/car-s...s/-/index.html
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 07:11 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,505

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5876 Post(s)
Liked 3,445 Times in 2,066 Posts
Quote: Investigators said [that the driver], was driving southbound and crossed into the northbound lane, hitting the riders. [he] was treated at a hospital for minor injuries and released."

He crossed over a lane during the day, killed two bike riders and injured others, and he was not immediately arrested. . . .


Last edited by bikemig; 09-22-13 at 07:25 AM.
bikemig is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 07:12 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Essex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northeast United States
Posts: 1,147

Bikes: Tarmac, Focus Urban 8, Giant Hybrid

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I saw this on the news last night. People on the ride were naturally quite shaken up. Condolences to the families.
Essex is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 10:32 AM
  #15  
Banned
 
dynodonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: U.S. of A.
Posts: 7,466
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1268 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 67 Posts
"This is an absolute tragedy that highlights that both drivers of cars and folks who are out riding bicycles need to be aware of one another, respectful of one another," said Hampton Chief James Sullivan.

With the motorist being clearly in the wrong, some LEOs just cannot let go of their bias towards cyclists. I don't know how more respectful and aware that the two women cyclist could have been, especially having a motorist crossover the roadway, and slamming hard into the adjacent guardrail.

Last edited by dynodonn; 09-22-13 at 10:35 AM.
dynodonn is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 10:40 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
mustang1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,719

Bikes: 2006 road bike, 2012 cx bike, 2012 carbon rb, 2014 hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
(Shakes head). Deepest condolences to families. This is pathetic. I'm not sure what to say with things like this.
mustang1 is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 01:27 PM
  #17  
Transportation Cyclist
 
turbo1889's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Montana U.S.A.
Posts: 1,206

Bikes: Too many to list, some I built myself including the frame. I "do" ~ Human-Only-Pedal-Powered-Cycles, Human-Electric-Hybrid-Cycles, Human-IC-Hybrid-Cycles, and one Human-IC-Electric-3way-Hybrid-Cycle

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dynodonn
. . . I don't know how more respectful and aware that the two women cyclist could have been, especially having a motorist crossover the roadway, and slamming hard into the adjacent guardrail.

They didn't get out of his way.



(That's not my position, quite to the contrary. Just what the majority of motorists including LEOs would say.)
turbo1889 is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 03:18 PM
  #18  
Banned
 
dynodonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: U.S. of A.
Posts: 7,466
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1268 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by turbo1889
They didn't get out of his way.



(That's not my position, quite to the contrary. Just what the majority of motorists including LEOs would say.)

I've noticed much to often on how a number of law enforcement officials use the word "tragedy" whenever a cyclist is killed by a motorist, especially when the blame for the cyclist's death is placed squarely on the motorist. Yet, whenever a cyclist makes a poor judgement call causing their own demise, law enforcement is generally not so kind to in their choice of words.
dynodonn is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 04:07 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
walrus1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 476

Bikes: Schwinn World Sport Jamis Ventura

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig

He crossed over a lane during the day, killed two bike riders and injured others, and he was not immediately arrested. . . .

Someday this kind of **** won't fly and cops will actually have to enforce traffic laws in an even handed manner. I look forward to that day.

My deepest condolences for all the bereaved and wishes for a speedy and full recovery for the injured.
walrus1 is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 06:04 PM
  #20  
Junior Member
 
AD-SLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hopkinton, NH
Posts: 128

Bikes: Too many.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I am just dumbfounded. Sadly just yet another distracted driver event which turned deadly. Here is a quote from a local discussion.

"I was at the north end of the bridge when it happened. One of the SAG drivers was at the south end and witnessed the event. There was a guardrail that prevented the bikers from escaping. The driver was texting and drifted across the center line and hit the 4 cyclists head on. The first person to the car opened the driver’s door and found a cell phone in the drivers lap with a partially written text message on it. The girl driving looked up at him and said "my boyfriend is going to be really mad. I'm driving his car." This was after 4 cyclists went flying over the hood and windshield of her car. Your post speaks for itself."

The quote came from a discussion on the newspaper article. Of course it has been since removed. I note that the news video also states is was a 20 female driver. Not a "he". Not that it has any relevance. Maybe time for a gostbike.

https://ghostbikes.org/
AD-SLE is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 09:08 PM
  #21  
Full Member
 
Pibber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: AdMo
Posts: 482

Bikes: cannondales 84 ST500; 87SR500; 95 CAAD 3 Silk Road 500; 99 CAAD 3 Frameset(project)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yet another tragic example of why handheld devices should be banned from use during driving. I wish peace for the families of the victims.
Pibber is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 09:47 PM
  #22  
vol
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by AD-SLE
I am just dumbfounded. Sadly just yet another distracted driver event which turned deadly. Here is a quote from a local discussion.

"I was at the north end of the bridge when it happened. One of the SAG drivers was at the south end and witnessed the event. There was a guardrail that prevented the bikers from escaping. The driver was texting and drifted across the center line and hit the 4 cyclists head on. The first person to the car opened the driver’s door and found a cell phone in the drivers lap with a partially written text message on it. The girl driving looked up at him and said "my boyfriend is going to be really mad. I'm driving his car." This was after 4 cyclists went flying over the hood and windshield of her car. Your post speaks for itself."
Unbelievable.

Guess from now on I shall always ride with the assumption that all drivers are texting and therefore unpredictable.
vol is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 09:52 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 880

Bikes: Surley LHT, Cannondale R1000, IBEX Ignition, Bianchi Boardwalk, KHS Milano Tandem

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Justice would have been if it had been a tractor trailer instead of four law-abiding cyclists.
Cycliste is offline  
Old 09-22-13, 10:32 PM
  #24  
commu*ist spy
 
spectastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: oregon
Posts: 4,459
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 653 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
wow. and nobody's pressing charges at the moment? I guess they're busy grieving.

that's ridiculous
spectastic is offline  
Old 09-23-13, 04:41 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Essex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northeast United States
Posts: 1,147

Bikes: Tarmac, Focus Urban 8, Giant Hybrid

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wonder what charges are pending? Here's an article from the UK showing photos of the knucklehead 20 yr old.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mile-ride.html

Another sad part is that the group is from the Cape Ann area of Massachusetts. Danvers, Essex, Hamilton.

Last edited by Essex; 09-23-13 at 10:19 AM.
Essex is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.