Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-07-13, 03:27 PM   #26
no motor?
Senior Member
 
no motor?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Bikes: Specialized Hardrock
Posts: 4,821
This is sad, and close enough to home that I've riden there before too. I too think people are more oblivious to their surroundings now, I don't remember ever having any troubles like this when I was a kid and we rode our bikes everywhere. I know part of the reason I don't remember this being a problem is due to the passage of time and not being as aware then as I am now, but it sure seems worse now.
no motor? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-13, 03:09 PM   #27
Chitown_Mike
That guy from the Chi
 
Chitown_Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
Bikes: 88 Trek 800 - gone to new cheeks; '14 Trek 1.2 - aka The X1 Advanced; '13 Trek 3500 Disc
Posts: 1,006
I rode that trail this past Saturday, and ride it all the time. The street over there that parallels the trail is usable but I have seen to many accidents to want to wander onto it. It's a shame because I have seen clueless dog owners getting their leashes wrapped in runners, walkers, kids, the trees, rollerbladers, and every form of person on that trail. Especially right in that section because there are houses right across the street and the people wander like zombies right onto the trails without any regard for anything going on around them.

I avoid that place after 10 am, usually before that it is strictly runners and riders.
Chitown_Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-13, 05:21 PM   #28
gcottay
Senior Member
 
gcottay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Green Valley AZ
Bikes: Trice Q; Volae Century; TT 3.4
Posts: 3,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
Airzound.
I think caution and skill work better.
gcottay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-13, 07:27 PM   #29
spare_wheel
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NA
Bikes: NA
Posts: 4,281
I just want to point out that this is an example of a pedestrian killing a cyclist.
spare_wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-13, 08:59 AM   #30
Digital_Cowboy
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997
Posts: 9,302
Quote:
Originally Posted by daihard View Post
Kinda glad I'm not the only one. BTW, the above incident happened to me on the road as well. I was on a bike lane between the carriageway and the curb.


In my case, jaywalking was unnecessary. There was a marked crossing with a traffic light about 50 yard from where she crossed the street. It's also worth noting that pedestrians can legally cross any intersection in WA since intersections considered crossings whether or not they are "marked." That gives pedestrians less excuse for jaywalking.
I've often wondered, ​WHY when there is a crosswalk nearby so many people have to cross mid-block?
Digital_Cowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-13, 09:06 AM   #31
daihard 
Senior Member
 
daihard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Bikes: Trek, Cannondale
Posts: 1,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
I've often wondered, ​WHY when there is a crosswalk nearby so many people have to cross mid-block?
Especially those joggers, right? They're running for health/fitness, what's in saving 20-30 strides for them?
__________________

The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
daihard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-13, 09:26 AM   #32
Darth Lefty 
Disco Infiltrator
 
Darth Lefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Orangevale CA
Bikes: '76 Paramount, 02 Hardrock, '98 C'Dale XR800, '04 Burley Samba, '15 Priority Classic
Posts: 5,367
So here's a theory. Not really related to bicycles, but to the extending leashes, because they are a menace to everyone including the dog. These are "normally open" devices. The leash spools out unless the walker takes action to press the button and activate the ratchet. It should be "normally closed" where if the walker does not hold the button, it does not spool out. It would require his attention.

Similar theory for strollers - they need a deadman switch, that brakes if they are not held onto.
Darth Lefty is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-13, 10:07 AM   #33
phoebeisis
New Orleans
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,569
Pedestrians ands folks walking dogs
Have NO IDEA how little agility a bike has.
A bike is less agile-in respect to changing direction or braking-than a car

A 20 mph(30 fps) bike-skinny tires high center of gravity- just won't change directions very readily.

We-Bike Riders- do know this- so we need to ride with that in mind-

Better assume walkers and dog walkers and DOGS have no idea about bike dynamics-

Those stupid dangerous reel leashes- get lots of dogs hit by cars-and they are constantly getting tangled in bushes trees sign posts
phoebeisis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-13, 11:33 AM   #34
Matariki
Not quite there yet
 
Matariki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Monkey Bottom, NC
Bikes: A bunch of old steel bikes + an ICE trike
Posts: 1,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
I've often wondered, ​WHY when there is a crosswalk nearby so many people have to cross mid-block?
For over ten years before I restarted commuting by bike, I walked to work. During that period, I was grazed by cars twice, once had to dive backwards to avoid a red light runner (who then T-boned another car), and had many other close calls. All of these incidents happened at intersections when I was in a cross walk (with signal if there was one). Because of this, I adopted the practice of NOT crossing at any intersection if I could avoid it. You can call it jay-walking, but I call it self-preservation.

Why cross at a point where cars can come at you from at least 4 directions when you can cross between intersections and only have to worry about cars from 2 directions!
Matariki is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:07 PM.