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    TX Man arrested for assault with his pickup against a group ride.

    Happened the other day near The Woodlands, north of Houston

    http://montgomerycountypolicereporte...yclists-video/
    Short article detailing what happened.

    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=9292363
    another article from the news has a little more info, plus a short video interview with one of the cyclists

    Here's the video that did him in:
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    Video shows nothing of what started the incident - why was he strolling about with a ball bat in the first place?

    Edit: The news article shows this guy to be a ass and bully. No objection to locking him up for several years.
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    Those stupid comments on the article get me down just as much as the incident itself, if not more.
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    Just goes to show you how unreasonable some people can be. Hard to believe.

    Also, it sounds as though the commenting cyclists were feeling as though they had to justify their riding by adding the MS150 information. Too bad they felt they needed to do that. That gets into people judging them IMHO. I think you have the right to be there and no need to justify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    Those stupid comments on the article get me down just as much as the incident itself, if not more.
    I may be stereotyping but I would believe Texas would have a lot more of the "cyclist belong on the sidewalk" crowd commenting on news articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooFlyPie View Post
    I may be stereotyping but I would believe Texas would have a lot more of the "cyclist belong on the sidewalk" crowd commenting on news articles.
    I'm not sure about that. A bicycle-related article shows up on the local news website, and hostile comments against the cyclist(s) will follow in no time. I'd think Seattle is better than that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooFlyPie View Post
    I may be stereotyping but I would believe Texas would have a lot more of the "cyclist belong on the sidewalk" crowd commenting on news articles.
    No, the morons are everywhere and they're compelled to comment on news articles for some reason.

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    houston has a pretty large bike crowd, but its a mix of roadie ******** and fun loving bicyclists. but i guess thats pretty much anywhere. either way, the feelings against the bike scene here is pretty mixed. the biggest annoyance, at least in downtown area, is critical mass making people wait at lights for 20 minutes while 1500 bikers go by ignoring the red light cycle.
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    I wonder what his legal argument will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matariki View Post
    I wonder what his legal argument will be.
    You mean, how creative will his defence lawyer be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    You mean, how creative will his defence lawyer be?
    Of course. This case sounds a lot like the biker beat down case in NY. The driver was obviously in fear of his life when he ran the cyclist off the road.

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    probably was fearing for his life, too, when he purposefully waited in his driveway before backing out into a group of riders a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    Those stupid comments on the article get me down just as much as the incident itself, if not more.
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooFlyPie View Post
    I may be stereotyping but I would believe Texas would have a lot more of the "cyclist belong on the sidewalk" crowd commenting on news articles.
    You would be correct about that -- and I find it fascinating that motorists' rants seem to focus so much more on their own RIGHTS, and cyclists' RESPONSIBILITIES, exclusively. But then, there is, much like their BBQ, no stupid like Texas stupid.

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    Sounds similar to California's "Good Doctor", but being in Texas, I doubt that this motorist's legal outcome will end up being the same.

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    Not to defend this guilty old loony geezer, but WHY was that bicycle in front of his truck when he departed ??
    I guess the same bimbo logic as used by that NY biker mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53 View Post
    Not to defend this guilty old loony geezer, but WHY was that bicycle in front of his truck when he departed ??
    I guess the same bimbo logic as used by that NY biker mob.
    No, these are bicycles Not Motorcycles.

    The rider was walking his bike across the road when the truck started up and ran over the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post

    The rider was walking his bike across the road when the truck started up and ran over the bike.
    The minute that Mr. Hothead got in his truck, I would have been nowhere near the front of his truck, but that's just me and my years of experience in dealing with Dick and Jane Urbanwolfpack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    Those stupid comments on the article get me down just as much as the incident itself, if not more.
    Unfortunately those stupid comments are not like the highly intelligent and well thought out critiques of this incident (or any other incident) and associated legal procedures found in the BF A&S list, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Unfortunately those stupid comments are not like the highly intelligent and well thought out critiques of this incident (or any other incident) and associated legal procedures found in the BF A&S list, eh?
    Having been around on BF for a couple of months, I'm finally starting to learn your sarcastic traits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daihard View Post
    Having been around on BF for a couple of months, I'm finally starting to learn your sarcastic traits.
    Hmmm, notice anybody making stupid or sarcastic comments about legal arguments?

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    Bicycle group rides are generally just plain rude to other road users. There are laws against motorists creating "rolling roadblocks" on multi-lane highways and I feel that bike group rides should be handled under the same law. One of our neighboring parishes (county) installed a law requiring more than 8 cyclists in a group to secure a parade permit before riding in the parish. There were all sorts of problems with New Orleans bike clubs clogging up those scenic 2-lane roads and highways in the country nearby. I rode with a club a few times before the law was enacted and I gotta say..."we" deserved it. I was too embarrassed to continue riding with those groups long before the permits were required.

    After the permits were required similar confrontations (as the OP) between local farmers/residents and cyclists dropped to zero.

    Blocking the road just because we can is bad form IMO. I can't blame the old geiser for WANTING to smash someones helmet in. Thankfully most folks won't go that far.

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    Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    You can be religious or not, but you can find some good nuggets in the Bible if you look. (The above is Romans 12:17-18)
    Just "Do unto others..." and "Love your neighbor..." covers lots of ground. Although, I have had some really irritating neighbors who put those good ideas to the acid test.

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    Yeah, it basically is a restating of the Golden Rule, but I think it puts the onus more on the individual. What can *I* do to get along with others? Several things have converged in my life recently that has me thinking along those lines more.
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



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