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1nterceptor 11-12-13 02:21 PM

Do bikes get a free ride? Advocates' infographic shows why not
 
"One car damages the road about as much as 9,600 bicycles. If bike riders had to pay a fee for their wear and tear on roads, they'd be writing checks for a few cents per year."

Read the full article:
http://bikeportland.org/2013/11/12/d...-why-not-96950

OneGoodLeg 11-12-13 02:38 PM

Nice article, but the numbers seem speculative, some portion of the property tax that home owners pay goes towards road maintenance in their town, so the 37% has a +/- factor, since not all bicyclists are home owners.

genec 11-12-13 02:57 PM

Now how to get this out where motorists will see it?

aubiecat 11-12-13 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genec (Post 16241087)
Now how to get this out where motorists will see it?

That is assuming they even care.

genec 11-12-13 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aubiecat (Post 16241134)
That is assuming they even care.

Oh they care... they think cyclists are using "their" roads.

wphamilton 11-12-13 03:22 PM

I've tried telling people this, but they generally just don't believe it. Heck I got resistance even here in Bike Forums when I brought it up.

John Forester 11-12-13 04:49 PM

The whole discussion concerns emotions rather than being a rational discussion of the cost of road transportation analyzed according to standard cost accounting methods. Ignorance produces more ignorance.

Drew Eckhardt 11-12-13 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneGoodLeg (Post 16241028)
Nice article, but the numbers seem speculative, some portion of the property tax that home owners pay goes towards road maintenance in their town, so the 37% has a +/- factor, since not all bicyclists are home owners.

All bicyclists who aren't homeless pay property tax.

Those who rent have the landlord set aside part of their monthly payment to cover the tax and other expenses before pocketing the profit.

Dchiefransom 11-17-13 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aubiecat (Post 16241134)
That is assuming they even care.

Why would they? The blog states something without backing it up. What damages the roads more in Portland, a Toyota Corolla, a guy on a Trek, or Mother Nature?

Looigi 11-17-13 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genec (Post 16241087)
Now how to get this out where motorists will see it?

They won't want to see or read it. They want to read articles about bicycles not paying their fair share, impeding traffic, being scofflaws... the ones that support their existing prejudices. Those are the types articles they'll eat right up,

MrCjolsen 11-25-13 03:32 PM

Here's what I tell people who complain about cyclists impeding traffic:

How often do you go someplace - the doctors office, a restaurant, or the mall, and get that ONE LAST PARKING SPACE? You know, the one that, if someone got there first, you would be in for a very, very long walk. It happens to me all the time when I drive my car. And sometimes, I'm not so lucky and have to make that long walk. And yes, I know it really sucks.

Well, when you are lucky enough to get that one last spot, take a look around. Chances are that there is a bicycle locked up someplace. And chances are, that bicycle belongs to an adult who would have taken that very last parking space had they not ridden it to the place to which you needed to drive.

Now, think of frequency with which the parking god smiles upon you. I'll bet the amount of time you spend waiting behind slower moving cyclists is a tiny, tiny fraction of the amount of time you save from not having to walk extreme distances due to there not being any parking spaces. And the only reason that one last spot exists is because somebody went there on a bicycle instead of in car.


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