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prooftheory 12-04-13 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 16290999)
Only Black Hawk and Central City have gambling.

Doesn't Cripple Creek?

phoebeisis 12-04-13 08:47 AM

Wow
Gambling casinos or those stupid video poker machines-absolute plague.
It just drains money from the surrounding economies-while providing a few crummy service jobs.
Politicians make out usually-

StanSeven 12-04-13 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16289727)
Hopefully also the cyclist sued the driver in civil court and won a big judgement.

Why should the cyclist be entitled to a big judgement? We don't even know if the driver was at fault. It was a bicycle and a car on the road involved in an accident.

I-Like-To-Bike 12-04-13 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 16300230)
Why should the cyclist be entitled to a big judgement? We don't even know if the driver was at fault. It was a bicycle and a car on the road involved in an accident.

Sure "we" know; somebody on the Internet said so. What more proof does a BF A&S lynch mob need?

StanSeven 12-04-13 12:19 PM

Haha. True and can't argue with that

Shimagnolo 12-04-13 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 16299746)
Doesn't Cripple Creek?

You are correct: http://www.coloradocasinos.net/cripplecreek.php

I rarely get down there.

CB HI 12-04-13 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phoebeisis (Post 16299557)
You should have assumed I would check your quote.
The quote is from Megan Hottman- HIS LAWYER- and is NOT in on the citation.
Absolutely no evidence they -trooper or DA said it.
Kinda tricky to post it as if it was actually something they said.

Since you are not willing to accept Megan Hottman's statement, then please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane. The lawyer who won the case seems a reasonable source over your made up claims.

phoebeisis 12-04-13 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 16301838)
Since you are not willing to accept Megan Hottman's statement, then please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane. The lawyer who won the case seems a reasonable source over your made up claims.

The judge did not find the Jeffco District Attorney met their burden of proof, nor did he find that the statute as written requires a cyclist who has "taken the lane" to move to the right when a car attempts to pass him."

The quote above is from the OP.He appears to be paraphrasing the judge's statement.
Notice "taken the lane" not my words-
If you don't like it take it up with OP.
I assume he is giving us an honest synopsis of what the judge said.

CB HI 12-04-13 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by phoebeisis (Post 16301928)
The judge did not find the Jeffco District Attorney met their burden of proof, nor did he find that the statute as written requires a cyclist who has "taken the lane" to move to the right when a car attempts to pass him."

The quote above is from the OP.He appears to be paraphrasing the judge's statement.
Notice "taken the lane" not my words-
If you don't like it take it up with OP.
I assume he is giving us an honest synopsis of what the judge said.

Taking the lane includes riding on the right tire track. Again, please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane.

phoebeisis 12-05-13 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 16301951)
Taking the lane includes riding on the right tire track. Again, please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane.

Wikipedia definition below
Lane control is the practice of a cyclist controlling a lane (also known as "using the full lane", "taking control of the lane", "taking the lane" or "claiming the lane" when traveling near the center of a marked travel lane.

Remember the JUDGE -according to OP- said he had "taken the lane"- I just assumed it is correct.

Quote from OP linked article below
This week we caught up with Gary Harty, member of TheCyclist-Lawyer.com cycling team and 20+ year cyclist, to get his thoughts and observations regarding a traffic case trial he observed on November 20, 2013. The trial involved a cyclist cited with CRS 42-4-1412(5) "bicycle rider failed to ride on right of lane when being over taken"

The "Ticket" said he wasn't "on right of lane"
I reasonably enough take that to mean -he was either middle or left.

CB HI 12-05-13 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by phoebeisis (Post 16302692)
Wikipedia definition below
Lane control is the practice of a cyclist controlling a lane (also known as "using the full lane", "taking control of the lane", "taking the lane" or "claiming the lane" when traveling near the center of a marked travel lane.

Remember the JUDGE -according to OP- said he had "taken the lane"- I just assumed it is correct.

Quote from OP linked article below
This week we caught up with Gary Harty, member of TheCyclist-Lawyer.com cycling team and 20+ year cyclist, to get his thoughts and observations regarding a traffic case trial he observed on November 20, 2013. The trial involved a cyclist cited with CRS 42-4-1412(5) "bicycle rider failed to ride on right of lane when being over taken"

The "Ticket" said he wasn't "on right of lane"
I reasonably enough take that to mean -he was either middle or left.

And you think the Judge used Wiki for his definition!:lol:

We have an actual statement from someone who was at the trial and heard the statements made by the cop and DAs. That most certainly trumps your assumptions.


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