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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    Only Black Hawk and Central City have gambling.
    Doesn't Cripple Creek?

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    Wow
    Gambling casinos or those stupid video poker machines-absolute plague.
    It just drains money from the surrounding economies-while providing a few crummy service jobs.
    Politicians make out usually-

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    Hopefully also the cyclist sued the driver in civil court and won a big judgement.
    Why should the cyclist be entitled to a big judgement? We don't even know if the driver was at fault. It was a bicycle and a car on the road involved in an accident.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
    Why should the cyclist be entitled to a big judgement? We don't even know if the driver was at fault. It was a bicycle and a car on the road involved in an accident.
    Sure "we" know; somebody on the Internet said so. What more proof does a BF A&S lynch mob need?

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    Haha. True and can't argue with that
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    Doesn't Cripple Creek?
    You are correct: http://www.coloradocasinos.net/cripplecreek.php

    I rarely get down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    You should have assumed I would check your quote.
    The quote is from Megan Hottman- HIS LAWYER- and is NOT in on the citation.
    Absolutely no evidence they -trooper or DA said it.
    Kinda tricky to post it as if it was actually something they said.
    Since you are not willing to accept Megan Hottman's statement, then please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane. The lawyer who won the case seems a reasonable source over your made up claims.
    Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Since you are not willing to accept Megan Hottman's statement, then please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane. The lawyer who won the case seems a reasonable source over your made up claims.
    The judge did not find the Jeffco District Attorney met their burden of proof, nor did he find that the statute as written requires a cyclist who has "taken the lane" to move to the right when a car attempts to pass him."

    The quote above is from the OP.He appears to be paraphrasing the judge's statement.
    Notice "taken the lane" not my words-
    If you don't like it take it up with OP.
    I assume he is giving us an honest synopsis of what the judge said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    The judge did not find the Jeffco District Attorney met their burden of proof, nor did he find that the statute as written requires a cyclist who has "taken the lane" to move to the right when a car attempts to pass him."

    The quote above is from the OP.He appears to be paraphrasing the judge's statement.
    Notice "taken the lane" not my words-
    If you don't like it take it up with OP.
    I assume he is giving us an honest synopsis of what the judge said.
    Taking the lane includes riding on the right tire track. Again, please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Taking the lane includes riding on the right tire track. Again, please do show us ANYTHING that supports your claim that the cyclist was in the center or left side of the lane.
    Wikipedia definition below
    Lane control is the practice of a cyclist controlling a lane (also known as "using the full lane", "taking control of the lane", "taking the lane" or "claiming the lane" when traveling near the center of a marked travel lane.

    Remember the JUDGE -according to OP- said he had "taken the lane"- I just assumed it is correct.

    Quote from OP linked article below
    This week we caught up with Gary Harty, member of TheCyclist-Lawyer.com cycling team and 20+ year cyclist, to get his thoughts and observations regarding a traffic case trial he observed on November 20, 2013. The trial involved a cyclist cited with CRS 42-4-1412(5) "bicycle rider failed to ride on right of lane when being over taken"

    The "Ticket" said he wasn't "on right of lane"
    I reasonably enough take that to mean -he was either middle or left.
    Last edited by phoebeisis; 12-05-13 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    Wikipedia definition below
    Lane control is the practice of a cyclist controlling a lane (also known as "using the full lane", "taking control of the lane", "taking the lane" or "claiming the lane" when traveling near the center of a marked travel lane.

    Remember the JUDGE -according to OP- said he had "taken the lane"- I just assumed it is correct.

    Quote from OP linked article below
    This week we caught up with Gary Harty, member of TheCyclist-Lawyer.com cycling team and 20+ year cyclist, to get his thoughts and observations regarding a traffic case trial he observed on November 20, 2013. The trial involved a cyclist cited with CRS 42-4-1412(5) "bicycle rider failed to ride on right of lane when being over taken"

    The "Ticket" said he wasn't "on right of lane"
    I reasonably enough take that to mean -he was either middle or left.
    And you think the Judge used Wiki for his definition!

    We have an actual statement from someone who was at the trial and heard the statements made by the cop and DAs. That most certainly trumps your assumptions.
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