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Old 12-03-13, 05:17 PM   #1
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Internaitonal Driving Test Comparisons

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-law-versus-us

Anyone like to comment from their own experience? Bearing in mind that the German test is said to be more demanding than the UK one

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Old 12-03-13, 08:27 PM   #2
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-law-versus-us

Anyone like to comment from their own experience? Bearing in mind that the German test is said to be more demanding than the UK one

And yes, I can spell international
But age and fine motor control don't always go togehter
While I don't drive, I can indirectly comment from observation. While I was born in Berlin, I only lived in Germany until I was 3, and didn't go back for a visit, until I was 24(1991). I lived in London for two years(1976-78). While Germany has the Autobahn, when I saw Berlin in 1991(two years after the Berlin Wall came down), I found German motorists' to be much more courteous to pedestrians, than British motorists'.

I would imagine the German test is more demanding because of the 'advisory' speed limits(75-81mph) on the Autobahn. Whereas, the M4 Motorway in Britain, has speed limits(40-60mph) that are a lot lower, and not 'advisory' like on the Autobahn.

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Old 12-04-13, 12:17 AM   #3
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Anyone like to comment from their own experience? Bearing in mind that the German test is said to be more demanding than the UK one

And yes, I can spell international
But age and fine motor control don't always go togehter
For an international drivers license, which I used in Japan, all I had to do was show AAA my USA drivers license and give them $10.
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If you watch some of the UK cyclists videos, they do not support the claims in the link.
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If you watch some of the UK cyclists videos, they do not support the claims in the link.
The author of that piece was such a deficient driver that he didn't even bother to use his mirrors until he got marked down on his British driving test. I guess he saw no need to know what was going on around him as he motored along in blissful ignorance.
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Old 12-05-13, 11:31 AM   #6
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If you watch some of the UK cyclists videos, they do not support the claims in the link.
OTOH, the 19-year old driver in the New Hampshire deaths case would have had her car confiscated by the police the first time they stopped her and found that she had no driver's licence, since driving without one is a crime and not a misdemeanour.

My own experience of 25 years as a cycle commuter was that the vast majority of drivers were ok and standards reasonably good. It may be, of course, that my assertive (not aggressive) style of riding helped them to be so. But I didn't ride in London where traffic pressures are greater.
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Old 12-05-13, 11:34 AM   #7
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The author of that piece was such a deficient driver that he didn't even bother to use his mirrors until he got marked down on his British driving test. I guess he saw no need to know what was going on around him as he motored along in blissful ignorance.
Not quite sure that he wrote that. His failure was to not use them before signalling. There's no mention of not using them before carrying out any manoeuvres
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Old 12-05-13, 12:16 PM   #8
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I don't have personal experience at this, but I understand the tests for drivers license in China are rather expensive and difficult. We had some visiting engineers from China several years ago that told me this... after they successfully got California licenses and were able to "practice" right here in the US. CA has since revised their tests to be a bit harder, but I dare say that likely it is still harder to get a license in China.
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Having taken both, UK at 17 and US (Massachusetts) at 26, I would strongly agree the US test is a joke.
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the us test is a joke and i don't need experience with any other country's driving laws to know that. compare any driver's ed booklet with a given city or state's actual driving regulations against the course and you'll find the absence of any real "education" staggering.
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I was just horrified to learn that Hong Kong driving instructors require no qualifications or training, and that the permits to be an instructor are drawn by random ballot from a large waiting list.

No wonder everyone drives like total F*tards!
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