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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    For my part, why would I want a rack vs.my VIP parking privileges?
    If businesses encourage you to bring your bike inside, and if there is an adequate and secure location to lock your bike to, more power to you. In my locale, most businesses are sensitive to a cyclist bringing their bike into the store, much less parking it inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
    If businesses encourage you to bring your bike inside, and if there is an adequate and secure location to lock your bike to, more power to you. In my locale, most businesses are sensitive to a cyclist bringing their bike into the store, much less parking it inside.
    EZ bike parking is just one fringe benefit of everyday riding in an area where few do. It's also amazing what a smile and friendly attitude can do.

    OTOH- the Freedom of the bathroom analogy applies. If enough people start biking (utility) businesses will probably rethink their rules.

    I only posted to make the point that bike friendliness shouldn't be measured by bike parking capacity. Lack of parking capacity may reflet lack of demand or interest. In the long run, it's the actual attitudes and effects that count, not the infracture per se.
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    Installed at the request of business's... http://sf.streetsblog.org/2012/07/02...parking-spots/
    You also make intersections more visible for pedestrians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    I don't know enough about the bicycle parking/sidewalk congestion issue in Charleston to comment either way about that. That's why I limited my comments to the unintended (at least I hope so) consequences of some types of bicycle advocacy.

    You have to be careful what you ask for, lest you get it ---- and are forced to use it.
    A lot of sidewalks are very narrow in Charleston with a very large amount of foot traffic. I've seen bicycles block the sidewalk near the Old Slave Market that would make it impossible for someone in a wheelchair to get by. Residential places like near the battery and Rainbow Row hate it when cyclist are chaining their bikes to posts right in front of their house or business.

    Here's an example of what they are trying to stop and it only took me a minute to find this on google maps.
    http://goo.gl/maps/mIWa4

    It would be impossible for someone in a wheelchair to get past that one bike parked right at the door of that business.

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    I should also add that getting around Charleston on a bike is awesome and the way to do it. Even if you got to walk 1/4 mile (about a 4 minute walk for most people), it's still far better then driving your car and finding a parking spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake View Post
    A lot of sidewalks are very narrow in Charleston with a very large amount of foot traffic. I've seen bicycles block the sidewalk near the Old Slave Market that would make it impossible for someone in a wheelchair to get by. Residential places like near the battery and Rainbow Row hate it when cyclist are chaining their bikes to posts right in front of their house or business.

    Here's an example of what they are trying to stop and it only took me a minute to find this on google maps.
    http://goo.gl/maps/mIWa4

    It would be impossible for someone in a wheelchair to get past that one bike parked right at the door of that business.
    As I said, I don't know the local situation, and not being a resident don't have a dog in the fight. There are two issues, a city planning and traffic management issue, which is a local matter. And the enforcement/public notice issue, which here was a good example of how not to run a city.

    I don't hold to the notion that bicycles should be able to lock up anywhere, anymore than cars can. But I don't support solutions until/unless there's a real problem, then I believe that citizens deserve to be treated with respect.
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