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    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    If this motorist gets pulled over or arrested for similar behavior my report will likely be taken into consideration by LE when it comes to assessing a citation.
    If this motorist gets pulled over for an infraction, he will get a citation for that specific violation, your "report" has no bearing on the infraction citation/penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
    and learn from that which doesn't kill you
    and this is why it's useful to *discuss* these incidents with motorists whenever possible.
    This is why motorists hate us, and why I've given up riding on the road...You should be ashamed yourself, and you should be reviled by cyclists everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    your "report" has no bearing
    absolutism and claim to omniscience.
    This is why motorists hate us, and why I've given up riding on the road...You should be ashamed yourself, and you should be reviled by cyclists everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    absolutism and claim to omniscience.
    No, it's a matter of law. A cop pulling over a car is denied access to prior records (except for open wants and warrants) lest it influences his actions in citing a driver. The information may be made available to a prosecutor, or to a judge (after his verdict), to influence the fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    No, it's a matter of law. A cop pulling over a car is denied access to prior records (except for open wants and warrants)
    when an officer in OR checks the licensing status of an individual they have access to an individuals driving records (including recent infractions). i'm not certain whether my report will show up there but i'll find out and post.
    This is why motorists hate us, and why I've given up riding on the road...You should be ashamed yourself, and you should be reviled by cyclists everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    when an officer in OR checks the licensing status of an individual they have access to an individuals driving records (including recent infractions). i'm not certain whether my report will show up there but i'll find out and post.
    Ya mean You are not absolutely sure and omniscient on the value of your "report"?

    How about the practical value of filing a citizen's citation for an aggrieved cyclist in OR that you previously mentioned as a useful tool in a case like yours? Just how useful is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Ya mean You are not absolutely sure and omniscient on the value of your "report"?

    How about the practical value of filing a citizen's citation for an aggrieved cyclist in OR that you previously mentioned as a useful tool in a case like yours? Just how useful is that?
    It's a time suck and it helps to have actual physical documentation. At least if the raging cager in my op appears before a court at some point in the future my report will be there for prosectures, activists, or the media.
    This is why motorists hate us, and why I've given up riding on the road...You should be ashamed yourself, and you should be reviled by cyclists everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
    The "Good Doctor" in California almost got away with his road rage incident, if it had not been for a previous complaint that was filed against him for the same driving behavior. The bad part, is that law enforcement were not the ones to bring the report to light, it was only brought to law enforcement's attention by a cycling advocate who had remembered it being filed.
    While it could well be a simple case of confirmation bias, I sure seem to see a lot of road rage (and other rage) cases written up in the press I read in which the accused has prior instances of either assault, domestic violence, drunk driving or driving while suspended. I think creating a paper trail of their dangerous behavior is a good thing since it might influence a busy prosecutor to take the time to deal with one of these clowns before someone is seriously injured or worse.

    The "Good Doctor" has given us a prescription to get the worst of the worst off the roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
    I think creating a paper trail of their dangerous behavior is a good thing....
    This is all I really hope for when I report a motorist for their dangerous or aggressive driving behavior, with my report being one possible link in aiding law enforcement or others in the judicial system to establish a pattern of a motorist's dangerous driving habit, if there happens to be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
    While it could well be a simple case of confirmation bias, I sure seem to see a lot of road rage (and other rage) cases written up in the press I read in which the accused has prior instances of either assault, domestic violence, drunk driving or driving while suspended. I think creating a paper trail of their dangerous behavior is a good thing since it might influence a busy prosecutor to take the time to deal with one of these clowns before someone is seriously injured or worse.

    The "Good Doctor" has given us a prescription to get the worst of the worst off the roads.
    More likely than bias is it is EXACTLY what it appears to be "bad people-thugs" are more likely to do "bad things"
    Best predictor of future behavior is PAST behavior.
    Thugs don't limit themselves to slapping around their girlfriend boyfriend step kids
    as the kids I occasionally teach say "some people don't know how to act right "
    They get away with violence and threats of violence-it works to some extent-for them-
    Jailing them- doesn't work-they continue to do the same stuff
    only thing that works is age-they get too old to be bullies/criminals
    Unfortunately-guns and cars-allow bullies thugs to remain thugs well past their prime thug years.

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