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Old 02-12-14, 05:56 AM   #1
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CNN calls fleeing bike thief "BICYCLIST"

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...spect.cnn.html

The link on CNN's homepage says "See Cop Tackle Fleeing Bicyclist"

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So, at the time he was tackled he was a bicyclist. That's what's known for sure. He was also a suspect, a man, and other things. But anything else such as thief, etc. would need to be preceded by "alleged". I don't see the problem. If the police stop a car and arrest the "driver" who may also be a suspected bank robber would the AAA be writing about it?
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So, at the time he was tackled he was a bicyclist. That's what's known for sure. He was also a suspect, a man, and other things. But anything else such as thief, etc. would need to be preceded by "alleged". I don't see the problem. If the police stop a car and arrest the "driver" who may also be a suspected bank robber would the AAA be writing about it?
CNN would not put this as the headline:

"See Police Pull Over Fleeing Motorist"

If the 'motorist' were being arrested for assaulting a police officer and breaking and entering.
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CNN would not put this as the headline:

"See Police Pull Over Fleeing Motorist"

If the 'motorist' were being arrested for assaulting a police officer and breaking and entering.
You're right, it'd be driver, or man driving car.
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CNN would not put this as the headline:

"See Police Pull Over Fleeing Motorist"

If the 'motorist' were being arrested for assaulting a police officer and breaking and entering.
http://lancasteronline.com/news/offi...a212d0e3d.html

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/13...y-vehicle.html

http://cjonline.com/news/2014-01-24/...eaves-hospital

http://www.dailysunnews.com/news/201...h-speed-chase/
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1. That was his car. Motorist works.

2. Motorist was not the fleeing suspect. Motorist works.

3. Motorist was originally stopped for traffic violation. Motorist works.

4. Guy was originally reported for painting a car in the WalMart parking lot. Motorist kind of works, but maybe it was a stolen car? Same website has this link: http://www.dailysunnews.com/news/200...eludes-police/ He fled in a car. Not called a "motorist."
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CNN would not put this as the headline:

"See Police Pull Over Fleeing Motorist"

If the 'motorist' were being arrested for assaulting a police officer and breaking and entering.
This is a case of man bites dog vs. dog bites man. Police stop drivers all the time, so that's not very interesting. What makes this interesting in the eyes of the news producer is the takedown of the bicyclist, so that's how the teaser is written.

The problem with identity politics is that it has people looking for slights or something negative in every reference. No matter how someone is identified as a member of a sub group, someone will be upset about it. I see headlines like "teacher arrested" or "plumber arrested" all the time. Should teachers and plumbers be offended?
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You're right, it'd be driver, or man driving car.
Or "Robbery Suspect" or "Man wanted for assaulting transit officer."
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This is a case of man bites dog vs. dog bites man. Police stop drivers all the time, so that's not very interesting. What makes this interesting in the eyes of the news producer is the takedown of the bicyclist, so that's how the teaser is written.

The problem with identity politics is that it has people looking for slights or something negative in every reference. No matter how someone is identified as a member of a sub group, someone will be upset about it. I see headlines like "teacher arrested" or "plumber arrested" all the time. Should teachers and plumbers be offended?
Yes. These days, with corporate money flowing towards anti-teacher propaganda, "TEACHER" is much more likely to be put up there than "PLUMBER."
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I saw that story too. it also bugs me that when they describe vehicular accidents/incidents they describe the vehicle as sedan, SUV or truck, etc. right now writing this it seems to make sense, but every time I here SUV I'm thinking, what? you got a problem with my SUV?
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1. That was his car. Motorist works.

2. Motorist was not the fleeing suspect. Motorist works.

3. Motorist was originally stopped for traffic violation. Motorist works.

4. Guy was originally reported for painting a car in the WalMart parking lot. Motorist kind of works, but maybe it was a stolen car? Same website has this link: http://www.dailysunnews.com/news/200...eludes-police/ He fled in a car. Not called a "motorist."
Just watched the video. The man was riding a bicycle. Bicyclist works.
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CNN would not put this as the headline:

"See Police Pull Over Fleeing Motorist"

If the 'motorist' were being arrested for assaulting a police officer and breaking and entering.

http://lancasteronline.com/news/officer-fleeing-motorist-injured-after-chase-and-crash/article_58311981-73e9-5a3e-897a-5b6a212d0e3d.html

1. That was his car. Motorist works.
One example suffices to establish that your first claim is not correct. You agree that your first claim is incorrect.

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Police stop drivers all the time, so that's not very interesting.

What makes this interesting in the eyes of the news producer is the takedown of the bicyclist, so that's how the teaser is written.
It's arguable that "bicyclist" is any more interesting.

"Bicyclist", "Motorist", "Driver", "Runner" conveys more information than just "person" (or something else as generic).

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Or "Robbery Suspect" or "Man wanted for assaulting transit officer."
Apparently, you don't realize that it's a headline. Do you really need to be told that the police chasing someome is a suspect? The second example is a good illustration of why providing details about the alleged crime isn't going to work as a headline.

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Just watched the video. The man was riding a bicycle. Bicyclist works.
The dude had just snagged that bike from that house/ driveway. Not a bicyclist any more than a car thief would be termed a "motorist"
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One example suffices to establish that your first claim is not correct. You agree that your first claim is incorrect.


It's arguable that "bicyclist" is any more interesting.

"Bicyclist", "Motorist", "Driver", "Runner" conveys more information than just "person" (or something else as generic).


Apparently, you don't realize that it's a headline. Do you really need to be told that the police chasing someome is a suspect? The second example is a good illustration of why providing details about the alleged crime isn't going to work as a headline.
Post reported. Sick of smug, insulting tone.
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The dude had just snagged that bike from that house/ driveway. Not a bicyclist any more than a car thief would be termed a "motorist"
A bicyclist is a person who is riding a bicycle. I watched the video and that person is clearly on a bicycle and riding it.

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Post reported. Sick of smug, insulting tone.
They're also completely right.
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A bicyclist is a person who is riding a bicycle. I watched the video and that person is clearly on a bicycle and riding it.
This is what people are complaining about, then we must be living in a true bicyclist paradise!
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Low CO2 producing vehicle using thief stealing same
Alternative transportation using thief caught stealing same
Green Thief steals Green
Human powered vehicle using thief caught stealing human powered vehicle
Prissy whiny "holier than thou vehicle" stealing thief caught using same whiner-o-genic vehicle
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I'm not seeing how arguing over a CNN headline relates to advocacy or safety.

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