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    Sad and Glad

    A few days ago a resident of Healy, Alaska was struck and killed while riding her bike to work at Denali National Park. It was a trip she made frequently. The road has good shoulders and at the time she was struck it was daylight with good visibility. In fact cycling of most types is relatively safe, efficient and fun in that area. Her death is a sad thing and impacts not only the community but the whole area.

    The glad part comes because the assailant left part of his vehicle at the scene. Although her body wasn't found for several hours the evidence helped get the investigation started. The Alaska State Troopers took that evidence and began to search. It didn't take long to track down the vehicle and its' operator. Even after the delay he still showed above legal limit alcohol level. He confessed and was incarcerated. Based on history he will get some jail time.

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    With all the passion about law enforcement and government poor response to cycling tragedies I sort of expected at least a Way To Go Troopers, or Finally They Got The Bad Buy. But, nothing. Not a note of condolence. Not a note of anger at the drunk driver. Nothing. That surprised me.

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    30 year old Dustin Dollarhide (male) owner of the 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck that was found with front end damage, faces charges of manslaughter, failure to report an accident and driving under the influence.

    Dustin Dollarhide was drunk, ran 56-year-old Gitte Stryhn (female) over and left her to die in a ditch on her own -- no doubt his driving ban will be shorter than his time in prison.

    First paragraph here contains more details.
    LOL The End is Nigh (for 80% of middle class North Americans) - I sneer in their general direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkOwl View Post
    With all the passion about law enforcement and government poor response to cycling tragedies I sort of expected at least a Way To Go Troopers, or Finally They Got The Bad Buy. But, nothing. Not a note of condolence. Not a note of anger at the drunk driver. Nothing. That surprised me.
    And where is your note of condolence and anger? All I see is finger pointing at the OP and nothing about the rider or the troopers in your post.
    "Gravity is a harsh mistress."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisersling View Post
    And where is your note of condolence and anger? All I see is finger pointing at the OP and nothing about the rider or the troopers in your post.
    I'm confused ... HawkOwl *is* the OP, and it seems that he is *glad* that the troopers found the guy, so that's an implied "glad that they did a good job".

    It sounds like he's referring to a news article or something, but he didn't provide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkOwl View Post
    ... Based on history he will get some jail time.
    Based on what history? Does the killer have a documented history of drunk driving? Are you referring to the fact that many, but far from all, drunk drivers who kill get some jail time?

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    Prison or no, this will gnaw at his conscience till the day he dies, getting worse every year. A prison term pales in comparison to this punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hairy Legs View Post
    Prison or no, this will gnaw at his conscience till the day he dies, getting worse every year. A prison term pales in comparison to this punishment.
    Um, while that might be true for a few, I don't think it's true for most.

    Most will be upset about what happened, but if they got away with it, they'll put it out of their mind and not really think about it any more after a while, and that usually takes less than a year.

    Unfortunately, that belief you expressed seems to come up a lot when somebody kills somebody else in a traffic collision ... the judge or jury thinks that their guilt is sufficient punishment, so they punish lightly or not at all. When the reality is ... most people get over it and do so quickly. Even people who we think are generally "good" -- after all, guilt has its place, but after a while it doesn't accomplish anything and people just let it go eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hairy Legs View Post
    Prison or no, this will gnaw at his conscience till the day he dies, getting worse every year. A prison term pales in comparison to this punishment.
    Pray tell, what makes you so sure the event will gnaw at his conscience?????

    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc View Post
    Um, while that might be true for a few, I don't think it's true for most.

    Most will be upset about what happened, but if they got away with it, they'll put it out of their mind and not really think about it any more after a while, and that usually takes less than a year.

    Unfortunately, that belief you expressed seems to come up a lot when somebody kills somebody else in a traffic collision ... the judge or jury thinks that their guilt is sufficient punishment, so they punish lightly or not at all. When the reality is ... most people get over it and do so quickly. Even people who we think are generally "good" -- after all, guilt has its place, but after a while it doesn't accomplish anything and people just let it go eventually.
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    The state troopers did an excellent job of tracking down this killer. NOW we need the courts to follow thru and give this killer a maximun amount of time in jail! A long prision sentence should be widely reported in the press as an object lesson to others.

    Yeah I bet the killer will feel bad. His type will only fee bad because he was caught!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougmc View Post
    I'm confused ... HawkOwl *is* the OP, and it seems that he is *glad* that the troopers found the guy, so that's an implied "glad that they did a good job".

    It sounds like he's referring to a news article or something, but he didn't provide it.
    Wow, I confused myself. I was getting angry at him for his comments about himself. Are we in some worm hole? My comment is just cringe inducing.... I still dont get what reaction his second post was trying to elicit. "Allow myself to introduce....myself..."
    "Gravity is a harsh mistress."

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    Historically what punishment this guy gets in Alaska depends on the charge. From public information he probably qualifies to be charged with Murder In The Second Degree. If convicted of Second Degree Murder most get about 7 years in jail, lifetime driving suspension and some other action. In cases such as this there are no plea bargains. But, there may be some mitigating information that hasn't been made public. Lacking that this guy is almost certain to spend time behind bars and to have follow on action against him.

    Juries in many areas are trending away from the "he has suffered enough by having to live with killing someone" as enough punishment. Recognition that people like this guy are not capable of remorse and empathy is becoming more widespread.

    BUT we still are a long way from the time when society as an entity considers this outrageous enough to stop them from driving in the first place. We have done a pretty good job of stopping the good guy who happens to step over the edge from hurting others. But we haven't done much at all for the chronic alcoholic/drug impaired or sociopath person.

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