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Old 06-23-14, 08:03 PM   #26
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Only some? It's gone from a living a lifestyle without a car forum to a how do we make everyone live without a car forum.
Agreed. Some people need to tone down their advocacy.

Can't we just enjoy our ride for now and choose to go car-free when we're good and ready?
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Old 06-23-14, 08:17 PM   #27
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Agreed. Some people need to tone down their advocacy.

Can't we just enjoy our ride for now and choose to go car-free when we're good and ready?
I have no right to stop you from enjoying your ride for now and choosing to go car-free as necessary. In fact, I do that myself. The ratio may be different - I drive no more than 50 miles a month, but I'm still not completely car-free.

I find it totally natural that people who post on the Living Car Free forum encourage people, including themselves, to live without a car (duh). I don't think you'd have any problem if I went on the Commuting forum and said I'd like more and more people to try commuting by bike, because this, that, whatever. I don't see the Living Car Free forum any differently.
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Old 06-24-14, 01:32 AM   #28
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It ISN'T a bike issue. It's more like the car version of the Walmart checker closing just before you get there.
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Old 06-24-14, 02:53 PM   #29
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It's tough to go slow in a car. Try traveling at bike speed timing the lights so you don't have to stop. You just can't do it in a car.
I do it regularly...at least in places where I know it will work and the lights are synced in some way. Then again, it may be more prevalent among those of us who are used to driving around between 15 - 20 mph....
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$8.00/gallon of gas will fix all this. At $6.00, they'll start saying "Wow, this is expensive." At $7.00, it's "Gosh, I better do something..."
Not really. People will find a way to get by with their cars. The problem is the sheer size of the United States, which is the 5th largest country in the world, and larger than the entire European Union. Other nations larger than the US generally have fairly close to the same fuel prices as we do. The smaller European nations have some of the highest fuel prices in the world. Populations there are also much more compact, and there are many more multi-modal transit options than we have in the US.

Because the US is so large and communities so spread out, cars will always make the most sense to the large majority of the population. I doubt that will ever change in our lifetimes.
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Since this is the thread for the usual suspects to rant about evil doing motorists and their bad habits:

A recent Supreme Court decision will make it difficult to implement some of our ranting comrades' desire for the police to confiscate and read every motorists' cell phone after every accident/incident in order to get the goods on the alleged evil doers.

Supreme Court: Warrants needed for cellphone searches after arrests - The Washington Post
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