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    Bike hating apartment complex

    I happened to be sitting at my desk, at home, this morning and I was able to watch the maintenance man walk around and collect bicycles. . . and throw them in the dumpster!

    These were not old rust collectors, these were bikes that were clearly in use.

    Now the really odd thing is at a literal reading of the rental agreement says that bicycles will not be stored in the apartments or on the balconys.

    I was too much aghast to think of grabbing my camera and recording his actions, if I see it again I certainly will.
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    I know a guy who had his apartment complex complain about his keeping bikes in the parking garage. He spent $300 on a barely running van, parked it in the garage and uses it as a bike locker. It seems that some apartment complexes would rather have an old truck, leaking oil sitting in their parking structure than a bicycle.

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    Mine are on my balcony. While a literal reading says that bicycles are not to be stored on the balconies, I have been told by the manager that means large collections of inoperable bicycles. (we didn't get so far as defining "large collection")

    It is a bit tiring packing my bike up and down the stairs though.
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    I hope you went and saved people's bikes from the dumpster.
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    That's genuinely funny. Besides, if the van looks crummy enough you could have a C-59 stowed away inside it and nobody would think to look.
    Quote Originally Posted by sauerwald View Post
    I know a guy who had his apartment complex complain about his keeping bikes in the parking garage. He spent $300 on a barely running van, parked it in the garage and uses it as a bike locker. It seems that some apartment complexes would rather have an old truck, leaking oil sitting in their parking structure than a bicycle.

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    bicycles will not be stored in the apartments or on the balconies.

    So where are they allowed to be kept ? Surely they are not banned entirely from the complex ! ! Are they ?

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    My complex sent out a notice that all bicycles and pedestrians were to use the sidewalks and were banned from the parking lot and street, because "drivers might not see them".

    After my blood pressure calmed down from that, I realized that since the note also complained about cars speeding, it was referring to unsupervised children. Reading between the lines, some residents got into an ego-contest about kids in the lot and speeders, both of which had become a problem in truth. I am ignoring the notice of course since I don't speed and it's going to take more than a note to push me into a sidewalk from a 15 mph area.

    Unless there's something in the lease giving them the right to confiscate bicycles, I'd be calling the law on the maintenance guy. Were all of the bikes in common areas, or were some in the residents' areas such as patios and under windows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    Mine are on my balcony. While a literal reading says that bicycles are not to be stored on the balconies, I have been told by the manager that means large collections of inoperable bicycles. (we didn't get so far as defining "large collection")

    It is a bit tiring packing my bike up and down the stairs though.
    I think lifting is one of the valid rationales for weight-weenieism Not that just liking it is not a valid reason - but, every time I lift my lightest bike up onto the rafter hooks and/or into my suburban I like that it's light. If I were carrying it up and down stairs every day, I'd like it even better. The other bikes I don't notice the weight difference as much riding as I do with the schlepping around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
    Unless there's something in the lease giving them the right to confiscate bicycles, I'd be calling the law
    +1 exactly

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    When I lived in Minnesota(where I bought my bike). The management of the last place I lived, before I moved out of the state. Told me I had to keep my bike outside. I told them, it would be a cold day in ****. Before I was going to lock my $700 racing bike out in the elements overnight. Where it could get ruined and/or stolen. They backed down right then. I locked it in my apartment every night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauerwald View Post
    I know a guy who had his apartment complex complain about his keeping bikes in the parking garage. He spent $300 on a barely running van, parked it in the garage and uses it as a bike locker. It seems that some apartment complexes would rather have an old truck, leaking oil sitting in their parking structure than a bicycle.
    My complex is the exact opposite. I got threatened with eviction once after someone saw me replacing a flat tire on my truck (in the single car garage that goes with the unit, no less) citing the fact that it was an eyesore and 'devalued the property'. Nobody bats an eyelash when I set up a stool and wrench on bikes in the driveway all day. The best part was when the guy who told on me for the truck asked me to tune up his and his wife's bikes

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    ^ You need to tell the rest of the story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair 4 View Post
    ^ You need to tell the rest of the story!
    Not much to tell, I'm afraid. I considered being a jerk, but figured it wouldn't do anyone any good. Ended up doing a checkover, bearing adjustments, brakes and putting some old sllicks I was never gonna use on their previously knobby-tired MTBs. Figure if they get out and ride, there'll be less occasion to be crotchety about stuff.

    I did get my second auto repair strike for jumping my car recently, though. To be fair, my truck was a ratty 1986 Nissan, and my current car is an old Volvo 850. Not the most prestigious vehicles, especially when linked by jumper cables
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    Quote Originally Posted by awfulwaffle View Post
    Not much to tell, I'm afraid. I considered being a jerk, but figured it wouldn't do anyone any good. Ended up doing a checkover, bearing adjustments, brakes and putting some old sllicks I was never gonna use on their previously knobby-tired MTBs. Figure if they get out and ride, there'll be less occasion to be crotchety about stuff.

    I did get my second auto repair strike for jumping my car recently, though. To be fair, my truck was a ratty 1986 Nissan, and my current car is an old Volvo 850. Not the most prestigious vehicles, especially when linked by jumper cables
    If they don't let you jump-start a battery-dead vehicle or change a flat tire, how do they expect you to remove the vehicle from the lot?

    TECHNICALLY my lease is similar, I just close the garage door if I'm going to do anything "major" on my vehicle. I did a front brake job on my old vehicle, nobody ever knew. One of the people on my road actually swaps his summer and winter tires with the car parked in the middle of the road! Replacing/changing tires actually IS one of the items they use in the lease as an example of something that is NOT allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallux View Post
    If they don't let you jump-start a battery-dead vehicle or change a flat tire, how do they expect you to remove the vehicle from the lot?

    TECHNICALLY my lease is similar, I just close the garage door if I'm going to do anything "major" on my vehicle. I did a front brake job on my old vehicle, nobody ever knew. One of the people on my road actually swaps his summer and winter tires with the car parked in the middle of the road! Replacing/changing tires actually IS one of the items they use in the lease as an example of something that is NOT allowed.
    My understanding is that they expect you to have the car towed elsewhere, which is absolutely insane if you ask me. I've learned to close the garage door, but the problem is that the garage is just barely big enough for a car. My bikes live to either side, and I have to move them all out to access the wheel wells. I usually do major work at a friend's house because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
    Unless there's something in the lease giving them the right to confiscate bicycles, I'd be calling the law on the maintenance guy.
    Actually, the maintenance guy would be calling the law on me if one or more of those bikes were mine.

    Some of you folks live in serious Nazi apartment complexes. Jeezus. I am an apartment dweller by DNA (I hate owning a house) and have lived in half a dozen over the past 30 years. Mostly second floor, once on the third. Bikes stay IN the apartment locked to an old iron security door that is attached to my oak bike stacker. I keep 3 to 5 bikes and a Bikes-At-Work trailer at all times. Both apartments I had with balconies had leases that stated "Bicycles in good repair may be stored on balconies". The trailer stays out on the balcony without wheels. Bikes inside. The house I currently own has an office with my "bike tree" against one wall including the trailer.

    I love the old van idea. Wouldn't even need an engine. Just have it towed and dropped into a parking space, weld all of the doors closed except the rear (or side) doors, and maybe even an alarm system. I shall store that in memory for future consideration.

    On a side note, when my wife and I began cohabitation 20 years ago she mentioned something about how I should buy a shed for the back yard and store all of my bikes back there. At the time my bike tree (only 2 bikes) was in the living room so I can't really blame her. Then the subject arose that I had too many bikes. So I made a deal with her. If she never talks about bikes, I never talk about shoes. All has been golden since.
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    I have numerous complaints about living in suburbia, but I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this sort of thing. When one shed fills up... I build another.

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    I've heard of apartments especially condos and co-ops in NYC that refuse to allow bikes to be rolled or even carried through communal hallways. I've also heard one co-op which went back and added such a restriction as a co-op resolution. I'd refuse to move into an apartment with such draconian regulations. If my co-op added such regulation I'd be sure to drag them through legal hell failing that I'd be sure to bang my bike into every inch of wall I possibly could.

    In my experience apartment companies spend most of their time trying to imagine everysing way you could damage their property and or keep your deposit when you move out. While co-ops are by three types of people. Elderly retirees who have nothing better to do but read the NY Post and imagine all the terrifying ways change is going to affect them. Or they're run by people fulfilling their mad dictator fetish. Also co-ops are also run by people who believe any deviation from the established cookie cutter norm will cause their resale price to plummet.

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    I think parking the old van and using it as a bike locker was a stroke of genius!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus1 View Post
    I've heard of apartments especially condos and co-ops in NYC that refuse to allow bikes to be rolled or even carried through communal hallways.
    This is part of the reason that I am working with my Doctor to have my bicycle certified to be a "mobility devise" due to cerebral palsy. Still no luck, it seems no one had done it and my quack isn't willing to be the first. I may end up with a trike, there is a lot of precedent for trikes (. . . but, no, I am not going to ride a Granny trike).

    [These is a kid I know with CP who uses his bike as a mobility device and everyone sees it as a mobility device. I asked him and he has no actual prescription for it or "real" proof that it is a mobility device. He is a lot worse off than me so he doesn't get questoined]

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    The van idea wouldn't work here. All vehicles must be operable, clean, and licensed. To get licensed the vehicle needs to pass an inspection.

    I haven't seen it; but my daughter claims to have seen several vehicles towed away here (I just got back form being out of the country). One case she observed was motorcycles, there were three in a parking space, the rules say one vehicle per parking space, two of them were towed (owners were at work).

    Yes, we are moving once her lease is up.

    (Now you see why she absconded my folding bike)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    I haven't seen it; but my daughter claims to have seen several vehicles towed away here (I just got back form being out of the country). One case she observed was motorcycles, there were three in a parking space, the rules say one vehicle per parking space, two of them were towed (owners were at work).
    Yeah. There are some serious management issues here which need to be addressed. I suspect a personality disorder... Do not tolerate this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    I happened to be sitting at my desk, at home, this morning and I was able to watch the maintenance man walk around and collect bicycles. . . and throw them in the dumpster!
    Are you sure it wasn't bike recycling day and you forgot to mark it in your calendar?



    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    I was too much aghast to think of grabbing my camera and recording his actions…
    Aghast: filled with horror or shock. Synonyms include horrified, appalled, dismayed, thunderstruck, stunned, shocked, staggered, and flabbergasted. I'd feel all of them, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    Mine are on my balcony. While a literal reading says that bicycles are not to be stored on the balconies, I have been told by the manager that means large collections of inoperable bicycles. (we didn't get so far as defining "large collection")


    "Small collection."

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    It is a bit tiring packing my bike up and down the stairs though.
    Perhaps with a bit of practice...

    Quote Originally Posted by awfulwaffle View Post
    I considered being a jerk, but figured it wouldn't do anyone any good. Ended up doing a checkover, bearing adjustments, brakes...
    Sounds like you gave them a full service due to guilt at your initial impulse. My LBS should be so generous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hairy Legs View Post
    I have numerous complaints about living in suburbia, but I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this sort of thing.
    Suburbia: the natural habitat of roving bands of kids. Note the bins at the beginning of the video. BMX recycling day in the 'burbs? And I love when they see how far their bikes will go unpiloted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert C View Post
    (Now you see why she absconded my folding bike)
    The Achilles heel of a folder: easy to abscond with.

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    I had several people complain about me assuming I was running a business out of my garage which is against the association agreement. They refused to believe that all 6 bikes belonged to me and my son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irwin7638 View Post
    I had several people complain about me assuming I was running a business out of my garage which is against the association agreement. They refused to believe that all 6 bikes belonged to me and my son.
    decatur_bikes.jpg

    All of ^^these bikes (a cruiser for every day of the week, and one trike for those drunken rides home) belong to one guy. But after meeting him a few times, I would try to find SOME reason to evict him.

    I had several people complain about me
    What kind of people do that? I have lived in rentals, some really tight quarters too with units on both sides, above, and below. The only thing ANYONE ever complained about was excessive noise late at night. One complex even had a brothel in one of the units and no one complained because they kept the noise down. Eventually the apartment manager noticed the traffic and kicked them out. Another time the unit next to me had two dudes actually manufacturing some plastic items (I have no idea what). I could hear a drill press during the daytime. Eventually the exterminator made his visit and ratted them out. There was five inches of plastic trailings covering the entire floor in that room (Trailings are the little bits left over when drilling a hole in just about anything) I never though of reporting them. They were nice and also quiet at bed time.

    Nowadays with computers it would be very easy to operate many types of business from even an efficiency apartment. Does that count too, or just the obvious things that busybodies would notice? I guess the "no business" rule keeps the activity discreet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 905 View Post

    Sounds like you gave them a full service due to guilt at your initial impulse. My LBS should be so generous.
    I suppose that's one way to see it. He actually came off as nice and courteous, as if nothing had ever happened in the past. Perhaps I got manipulated, but I figured there was no point in stirring up more bad blood. Nothing I did cost me anything but an hour of my time, anyways. What would you have done in my place?

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