Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-03-14, 07:50 PM   #1
Johnny Mullet
That Huffy Guy
Thread Starter
 
Johnny Mullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Bikes: Old School Huffy Bikes
Posts: 1,260
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Dirtbag Diesel Dogs Intentionally smoking me out

I live in the country and ride my bike on country roads. I only been riding for about 3 months and on 3 different occasions some low life punk decides to slow down before approaching me and then floor the accelerator and leave me in a cloud of toxic black soot and smoke. These were 3 different trucks that did this to me and this makes me very angry. Sad thing is, I am a certified diesel truck garage tech and luckily for these guys, none of them are customers of mine.

Since I am in this trade, I know the type of people they are that drive these trucks. Usually younger redneck uneducated hillbillys that drive a huge truck like this to compensate for thier little packages. Most of them cannot afford to drive these huge pieces of junk and cannot afford to fix them unless they become crash course mechanics themselves. Most of the trucks are rusted out hulks with bald, underinflated tires and are falling apart.

My question is, how does someone deal with this situation?

Get a Go Pro camera and record every ride hoping to get a lic plate number next time it happens and then report them to our already understaffed Sherrif Dept?

Call the police and hope an officer is in the area and can investigate the matter and catch the idiot?

Carry heat and empty my clip into the back window and carry a shovel with me?

Has this ever happened to any of you guys? What do you do about it?

Last edited by Johnny Mullet; 07-03-14 at 07:51 PM. Reason: beer typo
Johnny Mullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-14, 08:33 PM   #2
Mr. Hairy Legs
Full Auto, Baby
 
Mr. Hairy Legs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Delta/Richmond, B.C.
Bikes: shiny red tricycle
Posts: 876
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
I would think a hillbilly T-shirt with stars, stripes, and an eagle on it would do the trick. Surely they wouldn't smoke out one of their own?
Mr. Hairy Legs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-14, 08:49 PM   #3
Northwestrider
Senior Member
 
Northwestrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Bikes: Surly Long Haul Trucker, Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo, Dahon Mu P 24 , Bacchetta Strada, Rodriguez Tandem, Wheeler MTB
Posts: 2,453
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
My question is, how does someone deal with this situation?Has this ever happened to any of you guys? What do you do about it?
Sure it has happened to me, but not very often. How do I handle it ? Ignoring it IMO is the best policy.
Northwestrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-14, 09:48 PM   #4
likebike23 
Rides Majestic
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Westfield, MA
Bikes: 1983 Univega Gran Turismo, 1970 Schwinn Super Sport, 2001 Univega Modo Vincere, Self-Built Nashbar Touring, 1974 Peugeot U08, 1974 Atala Grand Prix, 1986 Ross Mt. Hood, 80's Maruishi MT-18
Posts: 1,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I heard about kids doing that crap, they call it "rollin coal". They modify the truck to inject too much fuel and it smokes like hell. I guess it's some kind of rebellion against anyone who they perceive as being liberal or caring about the environment. Since you are on a bike, they probably figure you for one of those types. As for what you can do, I don't know. It may depend on the emission standards in the state you live in, no standard, nothing you can do. Say what you want about Yankees, but thank god we don't have this kind of **** going on.
likebike23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-14, 10:00 PM   #5
JoeyBike
20+mph Commuter
 
JoeyBike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA USA
Bikes: Surly LHT, and 3 others
Posts: 5,428
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
Has this ever happened to any of you guys? What do you do about it?
Here is an entire thread dedicated to "rolling coal" and how people handle it from about a month ago. Lots of fun videos too. Enjoy!

Ever been "smoked"?
JoeyBike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-14, 11:21 PM   #6
Chris516
24-Speed Machine
 
Chris516's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wash. Grove, MD
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Allez 24-Speed Road Bike
Posts: 6,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
My question is, how does someone deal with this situation?

Get a Go Pro camera and record every ride hoping to get a lic plate number next time it happens and then report them to our already understaffed Sherrif Dept?

Call the police and hope an officer is in the area and can investigate the matter and catch the idiot?

Carry heat and empty my clip into the back window and carry a shovel with me?

Has this ever happened to any of you guys? What do you do about it?
Get a GoPro, and call the police.
Chris516 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-14, 04:28 PM   #7
SnowJob
Dirt junkie.
 
SnowJob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Bikes: Surly Ice Cream Truck, Traitor Ruben, Redline Monocog 29er
Posts: 393
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
I live in the country and ride my bike on country roads. I only been riding for about 3 months and on 3 different occasions some low life punk decides to slow down before approaching me and then floor the accelerator and leave me in a cloud of toxic black soot and smoke.
Damn, I'm sorry that's happened to you. That really sucks.

I guess I'll give my +1 to equipping a GoPro and calling the cops. Or maybe, if you can figure out who these guys are, sending the footage to their moms.
SnowJob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-14, 04:33 PM   #8
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Bikes: A lot of old bikes and a few new ones
Posts: 10,177
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 149 Post(s)
That sucks. You should offer these guys your business card since they clearly need your services in fixing their vehicles.

I used to ride a lot in rural areas for many years and never had any trouble.

The world has changed a lot over the years, though. There is a lot more anger out there. Sad to say this on July 4 but we are just too divided as a nation to be polite to people whom we disagree with politically (or think we disagree with). That's a sad statement but that's where we are. Frankly we are in a world of hurt if we can't figure out a way to talk to people we disagree with.
bikemig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-14, 05:28 PM   #9
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint
Posts: 14,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 133 Post(s)
happened to me on one of my last rides on a stretch from Bedford to Concord. despicable. I would have given them a piece of my mind if I caught up to them but I had no shot. it was obviously intentional
rumrunn6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-14, 12:09 AM   #10
dynodonn 
Senior Member
 
dynodonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 7,316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
Get a Go Pro camera and record every ride hoping to get a lic plate number next time it happens and then report them.......
If your state has a similar vehicle smoke program, that is not a bad idea.

Complaint Form for Smoking Vehicles

"The owner of the vehicle will be sent a courtesy letter."
dynodonn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-14, 02:30 PM   #11
vol
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 3,297
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
In addition to the the thread linked in #5 , also see these past threads:

Breathing exhaust fumes
The effect of exhaust fumes from vehicles

Even if the police care to intervene, how can anyone prove it was intentional?

I think all these fumes are really very bad for the environment and people's health (not only for their intended targets).

Last edited by vol; 07-05-14 at 02:35 PM.
vol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-14, 03:10 PM   #12
Chris516
24-Speed Machine
 
Chris516's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wash. Grove, MD
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Allez 24-Speed Road Bike
Posts: 6,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
happened to me on one of my last rides on a stretch from Bedford to Concord. despicable. I would have given them a piece of my mind if I caught up to them but I had no shot. it was obviously intentional
Presuming that you live in New Hampshire. Isn't their motto on their license plates 'the free state'?
Chris516 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-14, 03:21 PM   #13
1986raleigh
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: texas
Bikes: '86 Raleigh marathon, '09 Fuji newest 4.0, 2001 Cannondale R600
Posts: 193
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Get a Jersey printed on the back "my other ride is a diesel guzzling, smoke belching, f250 4x4"

Lighten up, just a little funny stuff from teenager, rednecks are gonna redneck.
1986raleigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-14, 03:36 PM   #14
Rollfast
What happened?
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Around here somewhere
Bikes:
Posts: 3,483
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris516 View Post
Presuming that you live in New Hampshire. Isn't their motto on their license plates 'the free state'?
I thought it was "Live free or die". They survived, now they are free.

By the way, I'm going to assume the OP cannot afford a GoPro, some of us have priorities like eating and living in a stable structure with utilities...
__________________
Dear banned sock puppets...stop taking all the potential great ID names from future newbies?
Rollfast is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:01 AM   #15
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint
Posts: 14,209
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 133 Post(s)
living in America and talking about about our freedoms doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. you can't infringe on the rights of others for example. in fact all of our rights have restrictions. for example my pursuit of happiness doesn't allow me to punch dumb sh*theads in the head no matter how happy that would make me.
rumrunn6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:56 AM   #16
dynodonn 
Senior Member
 
dynodonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 7,316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1986raleigh View Post

Lighten up, just a little funny stuff from teenager, rednecks are gonna redneck.
The same practical joke usually gets tiresome after the first time, and this is no different.
dynodonn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 10:58 AM   #17
Darth Lefty 
Disco Infiltrator
 
Darth Lefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Orangevale CA
Bikes: '76 Paramount, 02 Hardrock, '98 C'Dale XR800, '04 Burley Samba, '15 Priority Classic
Posts: 5,704
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 108 Post(s)
Consider moving somewhere nice?
Darth Lefty is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 06:27 PM   #18
Sullalto
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Antonio
Bikes: Jamis Quest Comp
Posts: 897
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Consider moving somewhere nice?
Ill-mannered ******** are everywhere.
Sullalto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 06:43 PM   #19
curbtender
Senior Member
 
curbtender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, East bay
Bikes: Marinoni, Kestral 200 2002 Trek 5200, KHS Flite, Koga Miyata, Schwinn Spitfire 5, Schwinn Speedster, Mondia Special, Univega Alpina
Posts: 3,874
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
It's happened to me a couple of times, once, a credit card rolled off the bed as they passed. I picked it up and left it in front of a liquor store on my way back home. Let karma do it's work...
curbtender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 07:54 PM   #20
JoeyBike
20+mph Commuter
 
JoeyBike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA USA
Bikes: Surly LHT, and 3 others
Posts: 5,428
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Consider moving somewhere nice?
Don't move to New Orleans. Getting some Rolling Coal here is about the kindest form of assault you can hope for. I rate getting smoked about a 2 out of 10 on the "that really ticks me off" scale of bicycle angst. If you already live somewhere that has not thoroughly desensitized you to a little black smoke, you are likely living in a pretty cool place.

Hold your breath. Then, after the smoke has cleared take a few deep breaths and make yourself aware of how much better your life is than someone who makes themselves happy by smoking you out. Those are some pathetic life forms that deserve your pity as much as your anger. Their lives, and their diesels, are probably headed for a water-filled ditch sooner than later.
JoeyBike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:27 PM   #21
Chicago Al 
Senior Member
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Bikes:
Posts: 2,344
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Apparently some morons feel they are making a political statement by 'rolling coal.'

Political Protest Or Just Blowing Smoke? Anti-Environmentalists Are Now 'Rolling Coal'
__________________
I never think I have hit hard, unless it rebounds.

- Dr Samuel Johnson
Chicago Al is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:30 PM   #22
Newt Reno
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Duluth MN
Bikes: Raleigh Route 4.0
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
pffft, just wear a NASCAR shirt.
Newt Reno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:31 PM   #23
Chris516
24-Speed Machine
 
Chris516's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Wash. Grove, MD
Bikes: 2003 Specialized Allez 24-Speed Road Bike
Posts: 6,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
I thought it was "Live free or die". They survived, now they are free.

By the way, I'm going to assume the OP cannot afford a GoPro, some of us have priorities like eating and living in a stable structure with utilities...
LOL

You are right, about New Hampshire's state motto.

As for my GoPro answer. I know everyone has other priorities. That come before getting a GoPro camera, fiscally speaking. That is why I have been entering GoPro's 'Everything-We-Make-Daily-Giveaway' contest. I bought some new bib biking shorts today. Because, I needed a new pair of biking shorts. I have to get the camera through the contest. Because, It will take years to save for a GoPro camera.
Chris516 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-14, 08:56 PM   #24
Darth Lefty 
Disco Infiltrator
 
Darth Lefty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Orangevale CA
Bikes: '76 Paramount, 02 Hardrock, '98 C'Dale XR800, '04 Burley Samba, '15 Priority Classic
Posts: 5,704
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 108 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newt Reno View Post
pffft, just wear a NASCAR shirt.
That... would probably work. Use Dale's 3
Darth Lefty is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-14, 05:18 PM   #25
dougmc
Senior Member
 
dougmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Bikes: Giant OCR2, Bridgestone RB-T, Bike-E, Vision R-40, Novara Safari
Posts: 3,029
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
"The owner of the vehicle will be sent a courtesy letter."
Alas, I imagine that said letters will be seen as a badge of honor if they really are "rolling coal".

Ultimately, I can't see even video being particularly useful here, as it'll be hard to show that they did it inentionally. Though if they're also yelling and laughing at the victim at the same time, *that* might show intent and get the police to take it seriously.
dougmc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:37 PM.