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    So the guy threatens to "f@#k you up" and the cops want to bust him for speeding. Sounds about right for typical car vs. bike enforcement issues.

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    You have a phone with a video camera? Or an actual go-pro?

    I've taken to riding with my GoPro visibly mounted on top of my bicycle helmet. 90% of the time, it's not even running (sometimes I just mount the empty case...) and it seems like it calms traffic down around me.

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    2/3rds the way over? when I stop at a light I generally stop at the curb. it's a convenient place to rest one foot. I'm usually back from the intersection a few feet as well so that drivers can get past me for the right-on-red thing. when the light turns green I let a few go before I get going. every intersection and neighborhood is different, but that's what I do. since this guy is an a-hole he might respond better to that kind of stop.

    regarding the cop, it would be better if he paid the guy a visit and had a talk with him and maybe went over basic rules of sharing the road, etc

    oh also, here is Massachusetts, a verbal threat that causes fear is "assault" and punishable. if someone touches you, that's "battery". some cops here know these things and others do not, surprisingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    2/3rds the way over? when I stop at a light I generally stop at the curb. it's a convenient place to rest one foot. I'm usually back from the intersection a few feet as well so that drivers can get past me for the right-on-red thing. when the light turns green I let a few go before I get going. every intersection and neighborhood is different, but that's what I do. since this guy is an a-hole he might respond better to that kind of stop.

    regarding the cop, it would be better if he paid the guy a visit and had a talk with him and maybe went over basic rules of sharing the road, etc

    oh also, here is Massachusetts, a verbal threat that causes fear is "assault" and punishable. if someone touches you, that's "battery". some cops here know these things and others do not, surprisingly.
    On this particular road there are no designated bike lanes but there is signage to "share the road with bikes". At the particular traffic light there is a sensor with a picture of a bike on the ground and when you stop on it in a perfect world it should trigger the light to change. Of course that's in a perfect world because most of them seem adjusted so that you'd have to weigh 1000 lbs to actually trigger it. The sensor is in the middle of the lane so that is where I stop especially because it is a less traveled road and it was a sunday and if I pulled to the side and waited for a car to stop and trigger it I may have waited for a while. Just so happens and I got lucky and this jerk came by!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzatronic View Post
    So the guy threatens to "f@#k you up" and the cops want to bust him for speeding. Sounds about right for typical car vs. bike enforcement issues.
    Typical for sure. Cop was actually very nice. He was a younger guy so probably more eager to do good instead of the average jaded cop where I live. At the point the cop got there it was he said she said and I know that so there wasn't much that I could do. They know who he is, what kind of vehicle he drives (no mistaking him because it's a lifted pick up truck with a loud exhaust, tinted windows and loud stereo) and where he lives. So at least he'll be on this one cops radar and if he does get a chance to pull him over for something I'm sure he will....and judging by how concerned he got when I mentioned calling the cops I'm sure he has a record and doesn't need any more trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
    You have a phone with a video camera? Or an actual go-pro?

    I've taken to riding with my GoPro visibly mounted on top of my bicycle helmet. 90% of the time, it's not even running (sometimes I just mount the empty case...) and it seems like it calms traffic down around me.
    Sadly even camera evidence doesn't mean much. If you look at the Socal forum there is a thread about a similar incident to mine except the people in the truck threw a bottle at the cyclist and the cyclist had it recorded on his GoPro and it's taken weeks to get action and it sounds like the police are going to cite the cyclist as well as the motorist because the cyclist swore at the driver after they threw the bottle at him. It's a mixed up world and even the people that protect us don't care about cyclists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    Sadly even camera evidence doesn't mean much. If you look at the Socal forum there is a thread about a similar incident to mine except the people in the truck threw a bottle at the cyclist and the cyclist had it recorded on his GoPro and it's taken weeks to get action and it sounds like the police are going to cite the cyclist as well as the motorist because the cyclist swore at the driver after they threw the bottle at him. It's a mixed up world and even the people that protect us don't care about cyclists.
    For me, it's not about evidence, because as you noted, that's pretty hit or miss. What I think having a visible camera does is make those people who have a bit of a conscience that might actually feel bad later have second thoughts about doing/saying something stupid and/or confrontational. I think a lot of people, sadly, would pretty much do whatever they could get away with if there weren't a threat of police/legal reprise. There are studies that back it up, but I don't remember the percentages.

    The camera acts as an external conscience, so to speak, for a lot of those people. Obviously, based on the plethora of evidence on youtube, there are plenty of asshats would would not let a little something like video evidence deter them, but they are a smaller group.

    Little things, I guess.... :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
    I always consider ever car, parked or running.... A LOADED FIREARM.
    oh please...enough with the drama. 99.999% of people in cars do not want to "f@#k you up!". just because someone lives next to someone with severe psychological issue does not mean ever[sic]y car is a loaded firearm. i once had a neighbor go after me with a hammer. does this mean all neighbors are homicidal maniacs?
    This is why motorists hate us, and why I've given up riding on the road...You should be ashamed yourself, and you should be reviled by cyclists everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    oh please...enough with the drama.
    Are you forgetting that this is A&S and the subject deals with crazy?

    There can never be too much drama on this list with such a target rich subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    On this particular road ,,,
    ah, gotcha. ironic
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    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    oh please...enough with the drama. 99.999% of people in cars do not want to "f@#k you up!". just because someone lives next to someone with severe psychological issue does not mean ever[sic]y car is a loaded firearm. i once had a neighbor go after me with a hammer. does this mean all neighbors are homicidal maniacs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
    Hi there SPARE!
    Leave your bike friendly town of Portland and come on down to Los Angeles.
    I was only there for 2 weeks a year ago, but I'm wondering how we missed all the non-stop random violence against cyclists when my wife and I were driving around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
    You have a phone with a video camera? Or an actual go-pro?

    I've taken to riding with my GoPro visibly mounted on top of my bicycle helmet. 90% of the time, it's not even running (sometimes I just mount the empty case...) and it seems like it calms traffic down around me.

    I noticed this as well when I mounted my headlight to the top of my helmet. What's funny is I had a Contour mounted on the side of my helmet for quite awhile before this, but nobody ever noticed it, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyven View Post
    I was only there for 2 weeks a year ago, but I'm wondering how we missed all the non-stop random violence against cyclists when my wife and I were driving around.
    When I drove longhaul I carried a bike with me, I've ridden in cities allover the country. Its pretty much the same everywhere, and its not as presented here in A&S. It seems some thrive on making mountains out of mole hills, or actively seeking opportunities to victimized.

    A&S has done far more to educate me in what not to do as a cyclist, rather than to worry about what some motorists may do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    Sadly even camera evidence doesn't mean much. If you look at the Socal forum there is a thread about a similar incident to mine except the people in the truck threw a bottle at the cyclist and the cyclist had it recorded on his GoPro and it's taken weeks to get action and it sounds like the police are going to cite the cyclist as well as the motorist because the cyclist swore at the driver after they threw the bottle at him. It's a mixed up world and even the people that protect us don't care about cyclists.
    The cops aren't citing him for swearing... They're citing him for asking them to do their jobs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug View Post
    The dude sounds bi-polar.
    My money is on that and intermittent explosive disorder. I have family with this problem; the apologies afterwards seem pretty pathetic given the bizarre misplaced blame and rage that comes out of nowhere - but they can't help it, you know, unless they seek help for it.
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    There are weird people everywhere, but I think you already wrote the answer:
    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    ... he got scared that he was going to hit me because I was right in the middle of the road ...
    The driver got stressed and his mind connected the wrong feelings. Instead of slowing down, he got nervous about being sued or loosing money in some way and projected it on you.
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    Interesting fellow, btw, IMO the cops will do nothing, but it is good you have it on record

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