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Old 07-14-14, 09:14 AM   #1
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Rewarding bike friendly businesses

I'd like to reward local businesses that are bike friendly by designing some kind of a sticker that the cycling advocacy group I'm a member of could reward them with. This would say something simple like "Welcome Cyclists" or "Bike Friendly Business," and the proprietor could display it in his or her shop window.

I was wondering if similar programs exist in your towns and cities.
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Rather than ask THEM to do something (more than what they already do), how about mentioning them on a local bike club/forum website -- a paragraph and/or their business logo; or, simply using word-of-mouth to spread it around. Just a thought.
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Define "bike friendly". Over decades, I've never had any bike related issues with any business in my area, including many that let me bring it inside and stash it by the side or in an alcove while I'm there.

The only issue I've ever had is with my local branch of Wells Fargo Bank. I usually leave my bike outside while using the lobby ATMs. One day the manager comes out and tells me to stop doing that and bring it in with me because a thief could grab it and run faster than I'd react.

BTW- they do have a rack but it's at the back door by the main parking lot. The manager agrees that it's a dumb place, but the town won't allow it in front. The other WFB branch I often use has a drive up window, and I'm greeted with a nice smile anytime I use it with the bike.

So, IME it's not about bike friendly, but about the few rare exceptions of bike unfriendly business. Otherwise, the post office, bank, super market, fast food joints, pizza shop, and bars would all have signs around here. Even city hall, where the police guards let me leave the bike in the alcove near their desks, though they're careful to remind me to lock it because they won't watch it.
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Rather than ask THEM to do something (more than what they already do), how about mentioning them on a local bike club/forum website -- a paragraph and/or their business logo; or, simply using word-of-mouth to spread it around. Just a thought.
All of that is already being done. I want to take it a step further.
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Define "bike friendly". Over decades, I've never had any bike related issues with any business in my area, including many that let me bring it inside and stash it by the side or in an alcove while I'm there.

The only issue I've ever had is with my local branch of Wells Fargo Bank. I usually leave my bike outside while using the lobby ATMs. One day the manager comes out and tells me to stop doing that and bring it in with me because a thief could grab it and run faster than I'd react.

BTW- they do have a rack but it's at the back door by the main parking lot. The manager agrees that it's a dumb place, but the town won't allow it in front. The other WFB branch I often use has a drive up window, and I'm greeted with a nice smile anytime I use it with the bike.

So, IME it's not about bike friendly, but about the few rare exceptions of bike unfriendly business. Otherwise, the post office, bank, super market, fast food joints, pizza shop, and bars would all have signs around here. Even city hall, where the police guards let me leave the bike in the alcove near their desks, though they're careful to remind me to lock it because they won't watch it.
For this project, my definition of a bike friendly business is pretty liberal. All a business owner will really have to do to be considered bike friendly is to not be hostile to cyclists and our interests. There is a small but vocal group of shop owners here who are pressuring our bike unfriendly mayor (who definitely won't be getting a sticker to display in city hall ) to tear out a protected bike lane that is used by 1,600 cyclists a day in order to put in more parking spaces. We want to reward those businesses whose owners realise that we cyclists represent an important percentage of their clientele.
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I might mention a business as being bike friendly on a Yelp review. However, usually I'll just give that place my business since thats how you should reward them in a capitalistic market for doing something you like.
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I might mention a business as being bike friendly on a Yelp review. However, usually I'll just give that place my business since thats how you should reward them in a capitalistic market for doing something you like.
That's one way to reward them, but not the only one. By urging other cyclists to patronize bike friendly businesses and to boycott those that are hostile to cyclists, we can gain more power.
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We have a deli/store that we use as a rest stop on some of our club rides. Staff is very friendly, they have a great selection of drinks and snacks and they actually put a bike rack out in the parking lot. I thought that was a nice touch and definitely makes us feel that we are welcome.
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San Diego has the SD Bike Commuter Discount program. For $50/year, businesses can display the sign on their window. If a customer rides his or her bike to the business, they get a discount.
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San Diego has the SD Bike Commuter Discount program. For $50/year, businesses can display the sign on their window. If a customer rides his or her bike to the business, they get a discount.
So, if I understand correctly, a business can pay a $50 tribute for the privilege of offering a discount to bike commuters? Sounds like a great bargain.

Of course they can keep the $50.00 and still offer a discount, unless there's some sort of rule against that, and have the added benefit that they're not obligated to discount, and can do so if/when it suits their convenience.

Meanwhile, I get what the OP means by bike unfriendly and thank him for the explanation. Otherwise it seems that most businesses are bike friendly in the sense that they're only too happy to serve us and take our dough (as it should be).

So maybe the OP is going about this the wrong way, and should seek a way to highlight those businesses which are bike unfriendly, and pressuring to end the bike lane or lanes involved. Maybe handing out fliers listing the opposition and asking cyclists to talk to them, or spend elsewhere might be more effective. Or if Spanish law prevents naming them or organizing something that's like a boycott, a flier describing merchant opposition (without naming names) to make folks aware of the existence of this opposition so they can mount a pro bike lane petition drive or do whatever makes sense given local conditions.
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Define "bike friendly". Over decades, I've never had any bike related issues with any business in my area, including many that let me bring it inside and stash it by the side or in an alcove while I'm there.

The only issue I've ever had is with my local branch of Wells Fargo Bank. I usually leave my bike outside while using the lobby ATMs. One day the manager comes out and tells me to stop doing that and bring it in with me because a thief could grab it and run faster than I'd react.

BTW- they do have a rack but it's at the back door by the main parking lot. The manager agrees that it's a dumb place, but the town won't allow it in front. The other WFB branch I often use has a drive up window, and I'm greeted with a nice smile anytime I use it with the bike.

So, IME it's not about bike friendly, but about the few rare exceptions of bike unfriendly business. Otherwise, the post office, bank, super market, fast food joints, pizza shop, and bars would all have signs around here. Even city hall, where the police guards let me leave the bike in the alcove near their desks, though they're careful to remind me to lock it because they won't watch it.
↑↑↑↑ This is my experience also. I think most businesses are bike-friendly already - - because they want my business.
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