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https://www.iihs.org/laws/HelmetUseOverview.aspx
https://www.iihs.org/research/fatalit.../bicycles.html
That costs me in my insurance rates.
John
https://www.iihs.org/research/fatalit.../bicycles.html
Ninety-two percent of bicyclists killed in 2007 reportedly weren't wearing helmets.
American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeeons (AAOS) Position Statement
Helmet Use by Motorcycle Drivers and Passengers, and Bicyclists
This Position Statement was developed as an educational tool based on the opinion of the authors. It is not a product of a systematic review. Readers are encouraged to consider the information presented and reach their own conclusions.
The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) endorses laws mandating the use of helmets by motorcycle drivers and passengers and bicyclists.
Orthopaedic surgeons, the medical specialists most often called upon to treat injuries to cyclists, believe a significant reduction in fatalities and head injuries could be effected through the implementation of laws mandating the use of helmets by all motorcycle and bicycle drivers and passengers. The AAOS strongly endorses such mandatory helmet laws.
Numerous studies in various parts of the United States have shown that helmet use reduces the severity and cost associated with injuries to motorcycle riders. Federal efforts beginning with the Highway Safety Act of 1966 achieved the passage of state laws mandating helmet use and by 1975, 47 states had enacted such laws. With the Highway Safety Act of 1977, however, Section 208 of which relaxed the pressure on states to have helmet laws, the federal government created the opportunity to measure the effectiveness of helmet use when 27 states repealed their helmet laws in the following three years.
The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) believes that issues of personal freedom should be seen in the context of the fact that the public at large incurs a major part of the cost for injuries to motorcycle riders.
The repeal of helmet laws in many states was based on issues involving some motorcyclists' claims that mandatory use laws infringed on their right to personal freedom. While it can be argued that the states' laws mandating that motorcyclists be licensed to operate the vehicle are a similar infringement, the more important issue is the cost borne by society when a motorcyclist is injured in an accident. Numerous studies have shown that in cases involving motorcyclists who were not wearing helmets, head injuries were more severe, requiring longer, more expensive hospitalization and rehabilitation. Moreover, it has been shown that the public at large bears a major portion of these increased costs, both in the cases where the injured patients' insurance does not cover all the costs associated with care and through the increasing cost of medical insurance premiums. Society must evaluate the claim of infringement on freedom versus the funding of these costs...
...The AAOS believes that mandatory helmet laws should be expanded to cover bicyclists as well as motorcycle riders.
There are more than 85 million bicycle riders in the United States. Americans of all ages have taken up bicycling for fun, health and fitness benefits, and as a mode of transportation. With this increase in popularity, however, has come an increase in bicycle-related injury and death. Approximately 800 bicycle riders are killed each year. More than 540,000 bicyclists visit emergency rooms with injuries every year, and of those, about 67,000 have head injuries. Direct costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $81 million each year.
https://www.aaos.org/about/papers/position/1110.asp(emphasis added, jcr)
Helmet Use by Motorcycle Drivers and Passengers, and Bicyclists
This Position Statement was developed as an educational tool based on the opinion of the authors. It is not a product of a systematic review. Readers are encouraged to consider the information presented and reach their own conclusions.
The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) endorses laws mandating the use of helmets by motorcycle drivers and passengers and bicyclists.
Orthopaedic surgeons, the medical specialists most often called upon to treat injuries to cyclists, believe a significant reduction in fatalities and head injuries could be effected through the implementation of laws mandating the use of helmets by all motorcycle and bicycle drivers and passengers. The AAOS strongly endorses such mandatory helmet laws.
Numerous studies in various parts of the United States have shown that helmet use reduces the severity and cost associated with injuries to motorcycle riders. Federal efforts beginning with the Highway Safety Act of 1966 achieved the passage of state laws mandating helmet use and by 1975, 47 states had enacted such laws. With the Highway Safety Act of 1977, however, Section 208 of which relaxed the pressure on states to have helmet laws, the federal government created the opportunity to measure the effectiveness of helmet use when 27 states repealed their helmet laws in the following three years.
The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) believes that issues of personal freedom should be seen in the context of the fact that the public at large incurs a major part of the cost for injuries to motorcycle riders.
The repeal of helmet laws in many states was based on issues involving some motorcyclists' claims that mandatory use laws infringed on their right to personal freedom. While it can be argued that the states' laws mandating that motorcyclists be licensed to operate the vehicle are a similar infringement, the more important issue is the cost borne by society when a motorcyclist is injured in an accident. Numerous studies have shown that in cases involving motorcyclists who were not wearing helmets, head injuries were more severe, requiring longer, more expensive hospitalization and rehabilitation. Moreover, it has been shown that the public at large bears a major portion of these increased costs, both in the cases where the injured patients' insurance does not cover all the costs associated with care and through the increasing cost of medical insurance premiums. Society must evaluate the claim of infringement on freedom versus the funding of these costs...
...The AAOS believes that mandatory helmet laws should be expanded to cover bicyclists as well as motorcycle riders.
There are more than 85 million bicycle riders in the United States. Americans of all ages have taken up bicycling for fun, health and fitness benefits, and as a mode of transportation. With this increase in popularity, however, has come an increase in bicycle-related injury and death. Approximately 800 bicycle riders are killed each year. More than 540,000 bicyclists visit emergency rooms with injuries every year, and of those, about 67,000 have head injuries. Direct costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $81 million each year.
https://www.aaos.org/about/papers/position/1110.asp(emphasis added, jcr)
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That may fit china and india but certainly not Japan. I never heard anyone say anything about helmets or consider cycling safety in any way in Japan, where bikes were just a normal part of life for children and adults, then I came to California and we were told cycling is so dangerous that our kids had to wear helmets and we should too and all that jazz. Say what?
It's a little more widespread than just The Netherlands: https://www.ibike.org/library/statistics-data.htm (especially scroll down to the city chart, which tells us about urban environments).
It's a little more widespread than just The Netherlands: https://www.ibike.org/library/statistics-data.htm (especially scroll down to the city chart, which tells us about urban environments).
Accid Anal Prev. 2007 May;39(3):469-74. Epub 2006 Dec 1.Click here to read Links
School regulations governing bicycle helmet use and head injuries among Japanese junior high school students.
Ichikawa M, Nakahara S.
Department of Community Health, School of International Health, Graduate School of Medicine, University of Tokyo, 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 113-0033, Japan. masao@md.tsukuba.ac.jp <masao@md.tsukuba.ac.jp>
We examined the effectiveness of school regulations concerning bicycle helmet use in reducing head injuries among student bicycle commuters to junior high schools in the Japanese prefecture of Saitama. This was done by comparing the rates of head injuries and the ratios of head injuries to non-head injuries between junior high schools with and without school regulations concerning helmet use. Bicycle injury data were derived from school insurance records. Information relating to numbers of bicycle commuters and demographics was collected for each school. We identified that the head injury rate was significantly higher in schools that had no regulations governing the use of bicycle helmets (rate ratio 2.97, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.03-8.56; odds ratio 2.46, 95% CI 0.80-7.60). The observed trend was more prominent in male students than in female students. The actual rate of bicycle injuries did not significantly differ between the schools with and without regulations concerning helmet use. This suggests that students at schools with regulations were no more cautious in riding their bicycles than their counterparts in schools with no regulations, and that there was no significant difference in the traffic environments surrounding each school. Thus implicating that the observed difference in the head injury rate was most accounted for by the presence of school regulations governing helmet use.
School regulations governing bicycle helmet use and head injuries among Japanese junior high school students.
Ichikawa M, Nakahara S.
Department of Community Health, School of International Health, Graduate School of Medicine, University of Tokyo, 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 113-0033, Japan. masao@md.tsukuba.ac.jp <masao@md.tsukuba.ac.jp>
We examined the effectiveness of school regulations concerning bicycle helmet use in reducing head injuries among student bicycle commuters to junior high schools in the Japanese prefecture of Saitama. This was done by comparing the rates of head injuries and the ratios of head injuries to non-head injuries between junior high schools with and without school regulations concerning helmet use. Bicycle injury data were derived from school insurance records. Information relating to numbers of bicycle commuters and demographics was collected for each school. We identified that the head injury rate was significantly higher in schools that had no regulations governing the use of bicycle helmets (rate ratio 2.97, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.03-8.56; odds ratio 2.46, 95% CI 0.80-7.60). The observed trend was more prominent in male students than in female students. The actual rate of bicycle injuries did not significantly differ between the schools with and without regulations concerning helmet use. This suggests that students at schools with regulations were no more cautious in riding their bicycles than their counterparts in schools with no regulations, and that there was no significant difference in the traffic environments surrounding each school. Thus implicating that the observed difference in the head injury rate was most accounted for by the presence of school regulations governing helmet use.
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Saying that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, and with the understanding that I am not really for MHLs, realize that by being inflexible on helmets, by saying that they don't work at all, by negating the positive benefit that they do have in your commentary, you strengthen those who would wish MHLs upon us. The scuba diving industry (DEMA) took in the 1960s the position that they would enforce stringent training requirements for divers, and thereby negated the push at that time for regulating sport scuba diving. They have been successful to this day with that tactic. But cyclists are either for or against, which reinforces the people who would impose MHLs on us all by giving them the position that "if they won't do it for themselves, we'll do it for them." What I'm saying is that by being the way many are on these pages, you reinforce those who would seek MHLs.
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https://www.iihs.org/laws/HelmetUseOverview.aspx
https://www.iihs.org/research/fatalit.../bicycles.html
That costs me in my insurance rates.
John
https://www.iihs.org/research/fatalit.../bicycles.html
That costs me in my insurance rates.
John
1Thompson, R.S.; Rivara, F.P.; and Thompson, D.C. 1989. A case-control study of the effectiveness of bicycle safety helmets. New England Journal of Medicine 320:1361-67.
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THE EFFECTIVENESS OF WEARING PEDESTRIAN HELMET WHILE WALKING FROM HOME TO SCHOOL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
PURPOSE: To evaluate the effectiveness of head injury prevention among pedestrians wearing a helmet while walk.
CONCLUSION: There was no significant difference between children wearing helmets and those not wearing helmets in the incidence of all injuries and head injuries by Xy test.
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Helmets cramp my style.. but so do brain injuries.
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I live in metro Boston. I am 51 and have never used a helmet. (Well.., I tried it for a few months in 1995). I've been riding since 1981. I use both a mountain bike and a road bike to get in and out of the city.
Personally, I feel that safe cycling begins and ends with acute awareness, quick reflexes and what I somewhat jokingly call " a good, healthy sense of paranoia". You will have to understand that to some, cycling is partially a social statement, symbolizing freedom. Since I wear no helmet, I am saying, "I cherish freedom more than life."
That is actually an aggrandized statement, because I can have both if I accept the responsibilities of learning from my experiences on the road and putting them to practical use.
I do not fear death, and if I put myself in a position where serious injury occurs, it is probably my own fault for not developing and implementing my perceptual, physical and intuitive skills adequately.
I think helmets give a false sense of security to both the rider and the automobile drivers which are a potential threat. If a rider is wearing no helmet, the car driver may be more alert and avoidant.
Before the "helmet law" went into effect here, in MA., in the late 1970's, many motorcycle riders wore no helmet. This is the renegade idiom to which I subscribe. It says two things: "Life is nothing without freedom." and "My safety primarily depends on my own actions." Fight the fear. Fight intelligently.
Personally, I feel that safe cycling begins and ends with acute awareness, quick reflexes and what I somewhat jokingly call " a good, healthy sense of paranoia". You will have to understand that to some, cycling is partially a social statement, symbolizing freedom. Since I wear no helmet, I am saying, "I cherish freedom more than life."
That is actually an aggrandized statement, because I can have both if I accept the responsibilities of learning from my experiences on the road and putting them to practical use.
I do not fear death, and if I put myself in a position where serious injury occurs, it is probably my own fault for not developing and implementing my perceptual, physical and intuitive skills adequately.
I think helmets give a false sense of security to both the rider and the automobile drivers which are a potential threat. If a rider is wearing no helmet, the car driver may be more alert and avoidant.
Before the "helmet law" went into effect here, in MA., in the late 1970's, many motorcycle riders wore no helmet. This is the renegade idiom to which I subscribe. It says two things: "Life is nothing without freedom." and "My safety primarily depends on my own actions." Fight the fear. Fight intelligently.
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The problem is that these things arnt a proper helmet
It's a marketing gimmick and I doupt that there's any real engineering behind it outside of the manufacturing process. I mean those gimmicks hats doesnt even protect the back of your head most of the time.
It's a marketing gimmick and I doupt that there's any real engineering behind it outside of the manufacturing process. I mean those gimmicks hats doesnt even protect the back of your head most of the time.
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Closetbiker,
The statement that you attributed to me was made by Ichikawa M, & Nakahara S.
John
The statement that you attributed to me was made by Ichikawa M, & Nakahara S.
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I live in metro Boston. I am 51 and have never used a helmet. (Well.., I tried it for a few months in 1995). I've been riding since 1981. I use both a mountain bike and a road bike to get in and out of the city.
Personally, I feel that safe cycling begins and ends with acute awareness, quick reflexes and what I somewhat jokingly call " a good, healthy sense of paranoia". You will have to understand that to some, cycling is partially a social statement, symbolizing freedom. Since I wear no helmet, I am saying, "I cherish freedom more than life."
That is actually an aggrandized statement, because I can have both if I accept the responsibilities of learning from my experiences on the road and putting them to practical use.
I do not fear death, and if I put myself in a position where serious injury occurs, it is probably my own fault for not developing and implementing my perceptual, physical and intuitive skills adequately.
I think helmets give a false sense of security to both the rider and the automobile drivers which are a potential threat. If a rider is wearing no helmet, the car driver may be more alert and avoidant.
Before the "helmet law" went into effect here, in MA., in the late 1970's, many motorcycle riders wore no helmet. This is the renegade idiom to which I subscribe. It says two things: "Life is nothing without freedom." and "My safety primarily depends on my own actions." Fight the fear. Fight intelligently.
Personally, I feel that safe cycling begins and ends with acute awareness, quick reflexes and what I somewhat jokingly call " a good, healthy sense of paranoia". You will have to understand that to some, cycling is partially a social statement, symbolizing freedom. Since I wear no helmet, I am saying, "I cherish freedom more than life."
That is actually an aggrandized statement, because I can have both if I accept the responsibilities of learning from my experiences on the road and putting them to practical use.
I do not fear death, and if I put myself in a position where serious injury occurs, it is probably my own fault for not developing and implementing my perceptual, physical and intuitive skills adequately.
I think helmets give a false sense of security to both the rider and the automobile drivers which are a potential threat. If a rider is wearing no helmet, the car driver may be more alert and avoidant.
Before the "helmet law" went into effect here, in MA., in the late 1970's, many motorcycle riders wore no helmet. This is the renegade idiom to which I subscribe. It says two things: "Life is nothing without freedom." and "My safety primarily depends on my own actions." Fight the fear. Fight intelligently.
John
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That may fit china and india but certainly not Japan. I never heard anyone say anything about helmets or consider cycling safety in any way in Japan, where bikes were just a normal part of life for children and adults, then I came to California and we were told cycling is so dangerous that our kids had to wear helmets and we should too and all that jazz. Say what?).
Anyway, are you talking about things happening at the same time?
It's a little more widespread than just The Netherlands: https://www.ibike.org/library/statistics-data.htm (especially scroll down to the city chart, which tells us about urban environments).
Anyway, this table, too, puts the Netherlands in a different place (China!) than the other Europenan cities listed (two times the usage of the next highest European city).
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https://www.vehicularcyclist.com/jpeds.html
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF WEARING PEDESTRIAN HELMET WHILE WALKING FROM HOME TO SCHOOL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
PURPOSE: To evaluate the effectiveness of head injury prevention among pedestrians wearing a helmet while walk.
CONCLUSION: There was no significant difference between children wearing helmets and those not wearing helmets in the incidence of all injuries and head injuries by Xy test.
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF WEARING PEDESTRIAN HELMET WHILE WALKING FROM HOME TO SCHOOL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
PURPOSE: To evaluate the effectiveness of head injury prevention among pedestrians wearing a helmet while walk.
CONCLUSION: There was no significant difference between children wearing helmets and those not wearing helmets in the incidence of all injuries and head injuries by Xy test.
As long as I don't have to pay for your freedom, I say go for it! If you expect to be covered by insurance for a head-injury in a motorcycle accident, then you are impinging on my freedom by forcing me to pay for it. (The overly-simplistic "libertarian" rational fails miserably.)
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...This interesting reference establishes that the Netherlands is an exception (maybe, one could include Denmark too). Europe, like Asia, isn't the same everywhere. If you are referring to "Bicycle mode split by city:" table as the "city chart", that table begs the question of what is going on in all the other cities not listed.
Anyway, this table, too, puts the Netherlands in a different place (China!) than the other Europenan cities listed (two times the usage of the next highest European city).
Anyway, this table, too, puts the Netherlands in a different place (China!) than the other Europenan cities listed (two times the usage of the next highest European city).
from:
https://www.cicle.org/news/earth_talk.html
Given different types of weather and terrain–as well as historical economic and developmental trends–comparing bicycle usage in different parts of the world is tricky. What is clear, however, is that China dominates the world bike scene: A whopping 60 percent of the world’s 1.6 billion bicycles are used daily by some 500 million riders in China, who choose bikes over other modes of transport over half the time.
Meanwhile, in Europe’s hotbed of commuter bicycling, Amsterdam, residents choose their bikes 28 percent of the time, according to the International Bicycle Fund (IBF). In other European cities, the stats are also impressive: Commuters choose bikes 20 percent of the time in Denmark, 10 percent in Germany, eight percent in the United Kingdom, and five percent in both France and Italy. In stark contrast, the IBF reports that American city dwellers choose bikes less than one percent of the time. Meanwhile, estimates of the number of American adults who commute by bicycle regularly range from a low of 400,000 (based on U.S. Census data) to a high of five million (according to the Bicycle Institute of America).
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This is my point, too. Talking about Europe or Asia in simple, sweeping, general terms obscures important information.
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By the way, people in China do not really "choose" to use bicycles, they do so from a cost standpoint--they cannot afford cars. But given the opportunity, and more and mare are getting that opportunity, they use cars:
https://images.google.com/images?q=ca...num=7&ct=title
Bicycles are now rare in Hong Kong, for instance.
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Wow. That's pretty cold, njkayaker. You mean to say that when you look at the statistics of injured or killed bicyclists, all you can think of is how that is going to affect your insurance rates? Wow.
Also, explain to me exactly how you are paying my insurance premiums.
What other risks would you like to force me to eliminate in my life?
You look at a bicyclist who has no helmet and think about how your insurance premium is going to go up? that's kind of koo koo. Ride safe.
Also, explain to me exactly how you are paying my insurance premiums.
What other risks would you like to force me to eliminate in my life?
You look at a bicyclist who has no helmet and think about how your insurance premium is going to go up? that's kind of koo koo. Ride safe.
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