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    Is Lane Control In Florida Common Even At A Red Light?

    I posted this photo online in early August with the following description: Actually this guy is in the right turn lane (even though the bike lane is next to him), but he went straight here. In Florida, a bicyclist can be in a traffic lane to make a left hand turn, but is supposed to get back over to the right side after the turn, unless he/she is traveling at or near the same speed as traffic. Is this correct?

    I received the following comment from a guy north of Detroit: Sidewalks are the number 1 and 2 places/reasons cyclist get hit by a car. The third reason is disobeying a traffic sign or signal (sometimes good meaning motorists wave them into the traffic when they get hit.) The reason why people get hit on the sidewalk? Bikes have momentum and cars are not expecting to see a bike that can't stop in time there. It's always a right or left turn into a driveway or cross street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailViewMount View Post
    In Florida, a bicyclist can be in a traffic lane to make a left hand turn, but is supposed to get back over to the right side after the turn, unless he/she is traveling at or near the same speed as traffic. Is this correct?
    The applicable Florida law:

    316.2065 Bicycle regulations.—
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    (5)(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride in the lane marked for bicycle use or, if no lane is marked for bicycle use, as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
    1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
    2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
    3. When reasonably necessary to avoid any condition or potential conflict, including, but not limited to, a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, bicycle, pedestrian, animal, surface hazard, turn lane, or substandard-width lane, which makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge or within a bicycle lane. For the purposes of this subsection, a “substandard-width lane” is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
    Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

    Cyclists only have to move to the right side of the roadway when the lane is wide enough to be shareable - a rarity. It doesn't even mention using the shoulder.

    316.003 Definitions.
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    (42) ROADWAY.—That portion of a highway improved, designed, or ordinarily used for vehicular travel, exclusive of the berm or shoulder.
    So, in short, a cyclist can be in the traffic lane (roadway) anytime there isn't a suitable bike lane. Any time the lane is too narrow for a car and a bike to travel safely side by side in the lane, the cyclist doesn't have to move to the right part of the traffic lane.

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    that lane arrangement probably confused him. My understanding is that in Florida, he is supposed to be in the bike lane unless he was turning. Did he end up going straight?

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    If he was going straight, he should be in the bike lane. I'd find his road position very confusing as a driver.

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    Either he was confused or he was being selfish and didn't want anyone to turn behind me.
    I use the right turn lane when I am turning right. I use the right part of the lane so then a car turning right uses the bike lane and turns at the same time as me. I find very few drivers in Florida know the laws.
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    I'd be there if the bike lane was on the right side of the right turn only lane, preventing right hooks.

    Is that a turn-only lane, with the bike lane between his lane and the through lane? If so, I don't think that's really "lane control". He's just in a position to go straight and trying to stay out of the way. I'd call it lane control if he positioned himself in the through lane.

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    I often avoid the last 20' of bike lane when it is between RTOL and thru lane as it collects lots of debris, but use the thru lane, not the RTOL to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
    I'd be there if the bike lane was on the right side of the right turn only lane, preventing right hooks.
    BINGO. I often come out of the bike lane and into the center of the lane at stop lights where right turning traffic is apparent. This keeps them from turning across my path. As soon as I am safely beyond the traffic zone I shift right. Whether or not this is within the law, I have no idea. Rather be safe and in the wrong than dead and correct by the law.

    Looking at the picture, the cyclist is actually in the line of cars coming up from behind to turn right. Whether the law allows for this or not, he appears to putting himself at risk.

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    There is no context, no other vehicles in photo and we can't read the cyclist mind so we don't know why they were there.

    That said it is clear to me based on the expression on the cyclist face they are concerned about the stalker photographer and decided to move more rightward to keep away from them.

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