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    if i get hit: tell police or tell lawyer?

    i know there is a large family and their friends who have taken several pictures of me on my bicycle. one of them is a policeman. one of them has already hit 2 cyclists riding together on purpose.

    if i get hit, should i tell the policeman about facebook messages and pictures of me, or should i tell a lawyer? i don't have access to any of these messages or pictures. i was simply overhearing the monther and father talking about me getting hit by a car while they said they were taking a video of me.

    i edited out some description because it is irrelevant. just trying to say that i've been very mildly harrased by many members of their family who i've never met or spoken to. i never speak back to any of them.

    also, if anyone was wondering, i've changed my cycling habits. riding with groups, riding in other towns, wearing hi-viz, staying off main roads.
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    The attorney will get you a lot more mileage than someone who might be a colleague of the offender...just sayin'.

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    Collect and file the information as it becomes available. If you get hit, file a police report concerning the accident and then contact an attorney and provide him or her with the information you've collected.
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    My first instinct is the police, but in some cases it's better to bypass them and visit the local district attorney's office (or whatever he's called in you state). Or you may consult a lawyer, but that can get costly. Sometimes, the press is a good route, especially if it can be spun into a nice story.

    In short, there's no one best answer, but if you feel threatened, you need to get the threat on record, and let those involved know you've done that.
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    post it on youtube.
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    Before you get hit, your best bet is to get a lawyer who can subpoena their Facebook posts and other social media as it relates to filming you. The threat of that will probably make them back off as who knows what other garbage this crew has posted and the cop will be afraid of losing his job.
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    Tell the cop exactly what happened, including facebook messages, then tell the lawyer the exact same thing.

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    Document everything and get yourself a rabid hound dog of a lawyer!
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    This thread is a little disturbing, because it feels like using yourself as bait to catch out the crowd of miscreants in their nefarious plan to injure or kill someone. It's the bait part that bugs me. If it were at all possible, I think I'd somehow find a way to document their scheming, escalations if any, and deliberate intent without putting myself in their cross-hairs.

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    Cameras are cheaper than lawyers and more useful to the police. I'd get a pair of them if it were me.

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    Lawyer and a helmet cam.

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    It is mentioned that one family member intentionally hit two cyclists on a previous occasion. Do you have the names of the individuals and what happened to their case?

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    This may sound useless, but no matter what, you should file a police report. Why? Because it's a legal document that lays out your version of what happened and is submissable in any court. It's essentially a sworn version of your events that anyone who hit you will have to answer. Obviously, it's not documented proof of what occurred, so if you could get/borrow something like a GoPro to document the actual behavior, that would be advantageous as well.

    You can take an issue to your local district attorney, county attorney, or whatever they're called in your area and ask them to investigate. There are two issues at play -- the accident itself and the fact that the perpetrator is a public official. The DA will be obligated to investigate potential misconduct. A lawyer will be more tenacious, however. If you get an attorney that will work on contingency, all you'll have to pay up front are expenses.

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    File the police report.

    If it is known who hit you keep this between yourself and your lawyer.

    If it is not known who hit you and you suspect it was this family consult with your lawyer on what to do. But do so quickly. Don't give them time to destroy evidence.

    If you know who hit you because you recognize the car or driver of course tell the police that.

    If you are in California and the driver does not stop you can be pretty sure at least LAPD and the Highway Patrol will take it very seriously. That does not mean they will do some TV show search, but if you have any leads they will track them down.
    Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.

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    Actually, in many states, the information you have may be actionable. I'd go ahead and lawyer up myself.

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    remember that anything you post online can be used in legal proceedings (police work, criminal, civil etc. ) Even responses and your response or non response may be considered.

    If you think this is serious, probably worth discussion with lawyer as to what options are and have the thread deleted.
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    thanks everyone. i was posting this to see what lawyers and police do with facebook things. like in my situation where i have a suspicioun but don't have acces to the messages.
    i've thought about getting a camera. i've been thinking about a rear camera more than a helmet or forward camera. is there a good thread for cameras and legal effectiveness of cameras?

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