Do you "call" cyclists on blowing through stop signs/lights?
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Now to answer your question if they do something that puts me in danger I might give them a "What the hell man?!" But that's it and usually I just shake my head and move on. I don't feel the need to correct their behavior.
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Now that I think of it, twice at a four way stop, while driving my car, I blasted my horn at an oncoming cyclist. I was about to turn left HAD MY SIGNAL on, and they came straight though without stopping.
One guy gave me the finger
One guy gave me the finger
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I got scolded taking the right-of-way, aka I did not stop at a 4-way stop intersection. It was 5 am, a Sunday morning, side street in a very small town and the car beat me to the stop. I wasn't going very fast as I had slowed down. I suppose I didn't want to unclip, so just rode through the intersection.
I was in the wrong, but it wasn't as if the bovine (yea I am a bit annoyed about getting yelled at ...you ran a stop a sign... you ran a stop sign! in her screechy voice) had some place better to go in a hurry.
I did not respond.
I was in the wrong, but it wasn't as if the bovine (yea I am a bit annoyed about getting yelled at ...you ran a stop a sign... you ran a stop sign! in her screechy voice) had some place better to go in a hurry.
I did not respond.
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I told a guy to hurry up and go and that he had a stop sign this morning; at the same intersection I mentioned earlier.
I had come to a full stop to turn left and he ran his stop sign; then proceeded to realize I had the right of way and stopped in the middle of the road. At which I point I told him him to move since he was blocking me and the cross traffic
A consequence of me grumbling about drivers is my son starts to also. The next car to go by us my son yelled, "Hey what are you doing?". I then had to explain the driver did nothing wrong.
I had come to a full stop to turn left and he ran his stop sign; then proceeded to realize I had the right of way and stopped in the middle of the road. At which I point I told him him to move since he was blocking me and the cross traffic
A consequence of me grumbling about drivers is my son starts to also. The next car to go by us my son yelled, "Hey what are you doing?". I then had to explain the driver did nothing wrong.
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I suspect "leading by example" will do more than "calling out".
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That must mean yelling at them from a full stop is the most effective and embarrassing to them. I try to do this.
An aside.
In Vancouver we have lights with traffic signals on the main route and stop signs at the cross street; usually a bike lane. The light is triggered by a pedestrian button. People always blow the stop sign since you know the cross traffic has the red light.
Any sense of right of way goes out the window. Which is incredibly frustrating turning left like I try to at one busy intersection.
It is the most arcane and frustrating system ever, and apparently the only one of its kind in North America. It means if you are on the main street you can sometimes only travel a block before a pedestrian triggers it, and then another block, and so on. If you are on the cross street you have to stop and trigger it and wait.
That must mean yelling at them from a full stop is the most effective and embarrassing to them. I try to do this.
An aside.
In Vancouver we have lights with traffic signals on the main route and stop signs at the cross street; usually a bike lane. The light is triggered by a pedestrian button. People always blow the stop sign since you know the cross traffic has the red light.
Any sense of right of way goes out the window. Which is incredibly frustrating turning left like I try to at one busy intersection.
It is the most arcane and frustrating system ever, and apparently the only one of its kind in North America. It means if you are on the main street you can sometimes only travel a block before a pedestrian triggers it, and then another block, and so on. If you are on the cross street you have to stop and trigger it and wait.
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Bingo!
First off almost cyclist sails through without looking. The few who do don't tend to live very long. Many cyclists stop or slow down to a near stop make sure it's safe and then proceed. If you don't know about the Idaho Stop you must be very new to cycling.
Now to answer your question if they do something that puts me in danger I might give them a "What the hell man?!" But that's it and usually I just shake my head and move on. I don't feel the need to correct their behavior.
First off almost cyclist sails through without looking. The few who do don't tend to live very long. Many cyclists stop or slow down to a near stop make sure it's safe and then proceed. If you don't know about the Idaho Stop you must be very new to cycling.
Now to answer your question if they do something that puts me in danger I might give them a "What the hell man?!" But that's it and usually I just shake my head and move on. I don't feel the need to correct their behavior.
I'd be most inclined to say something to riders who are violating the letter of the law but not creating a safety issue in instances where I am aware of recent enforcement efforts. Not sure I'd really consider that calling out the other cyclist.
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Ironically, when I'm out lone wolfing I head check and call out - "Stopping!" Just like I'd do in a group. But that's only because I've been hit a few times and had too many close calls. Can't tell if it makes any difference though - anecdote not equal to data.
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Always! Both cyclists and drivers. When a bicycle rider runs a red, or a stop sign, they make all bike riders look bad, thus are doing harm to me. Plus it's against the law and we all have the societal obligation to point out to someone when they are engaged in an illegal activity.
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I got scolded taking the right-of-way, aka I did not stop at a 4-way stop intersection. It was 5 am, a Sunday morning, side street in a very small town and the car beat me to the stop. I wasn't going very fast as I had slowed down. I suppose I didn't want to unclip, so just rode through the intersection.
I was in the wrong, but it wasn't as if the bovine (yea I am a bit annoyed about getting yelled at ...you ran a stop a sign... you ran a stop sign! in her screechy voice) had some place better to go in a hurry.
I did not respond.
I was in the wrong, but it wasn't as if the bovine (yea I am a bit annoyed about getting yelled at ...you ran a stop a sign... you ran a stop sign! in her screechy voice) had some place better to go in a hurry.
I did not respond.
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Middle finger in the air and a few choice words.
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Always! Both cyclists and drivers. When a bicycle rider runs a red, or a stop sign, they make all bike riders look bad, thus are doing harm to me. Plus it's against the law and we all have the societal obligation to point out to someone when they are engaged in an illegal activity.
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We can bat this back and forth forever, but I doubt anybody will change their minds.
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Agreed. And, if you think about it, other "communities" of road users aren't doing this sort of self-policing. If a guy in a Jeep sees another Jeep speeding or rolling a stop sign, do you think he comes online to a Jeep forum, to whine about how that makes all Jeep-drivers look bad? Yeah, I bet it's happened once or twice, but with bicycles, it happens all the time. We, as cyclists, are individuals. We don't need to apologize for the actions of other cyclists, nor do we need to pretend it's our job to correct/punish opther cyclists for minor traffic infractions.
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I had my most lawless day today. I blew through four stop signs, rolled through two stop devices and blatantly blew/ran a full red. No one said anything.
I feel like a rebel, and my average speed was really high.
I feel like a rebel, and my average speed was really high.
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