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Indirectly, make that two. I don't live in Kentucky. But in some of her videos'. She points out the garbage that ends up in the 'breakdown lane', in addition to stalled vehicles'. This thread reminded me of a situation last year on a local bike path. The problem wasn't a 'motorized' vehicle, pedestrians', or other cyclists' blocking the path. It was a dead rotting deer that a vehicle had hit. It was two weeks before the deer was removed from the bike path. That was just on the bike path. The judge who ordered Ms. Schill to ride in the 'breakdown' lane. Has more than a screw loose. The rumble strips are one thing. While they are terrible to ride over. Ms. Schill pointed out in several of her videos', how the edges' of the outside lanes of U.S. 27 in Kentucky, are cracked, and have divets. The only tire that could navigate the divets and survive. Would be a studded mountain bike tire. A road bike tire of any type would pop and/or cause the bike to crash. I initially thought she was being quite the risk-taker. But, Upon further reflection, I agree with her. I 'take the lane', not 'as warranted'. But for safety.
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To my knowledge, from reading the description of both of your rides, neither one of you merged into the traffic lane from the shoulder at any point in your rides. Is that correct? If so, read Chris516's post about the location of the divets again. You would never have crossed them unless you were trying to merge on or off the roadway.
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No, I never merged into the traffic lane. I did miss where he said they were and that was my mistake. Maybe that is another reason to stay in the maintenance lane and avoid these divots? Sorry, I couldn't pass that one up.(got to joke a little)
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Are you sure we're allowed to joke? I thought we had to call each other names, divide everyone into us/them groups, and misrepresent others' points of view.
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As I see it, a number cyclists in the area, seem to be content with what they have now, don't wish to be seen as a "fringe"case, think more on the lines of "far right as possible", and don't wish to be an inconvenience to faster road users, even though faster road users can get by.
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If this thread is not an A to Z compendium on why we get no respect, I don't know might be. What can we do, when a large number of our "community" is so extreme and adamantly against any rational thoughts or discussion in these matters? Its rebel flagged pick-up people without the pick-ups. It's funny to read, but upon reflection, truly depressing. This is the face of our 'advocacy'.
Its just that bad attitudes, like bad behavior stand out like a sore thumb.
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As I see it, a number cyclists in the area, seem to be content with what they have now, don't wish to be seen as a "fringe"case, think more on the lines of "far right as possible", and don't wish to be an inconvenience to faster road users, even though faster road users can get by.
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If a large part of society wants to drive motorized vehicles, and a good portion of the remaining number are content with what is given them, I see very little in the way of change being made. As I said before, Ms Schill has focused attention towards the section of roadway that she has travels on, probably far more than a number of local cyclists in the area were able to do in their being polite.
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If a large part of society wants to drive motorized vehicles, and a good portion of the remaining number are content with what is given them, I see very little in the way of change being made. As I said before, Ms Schill has focused attention towards the section of roadway that she has travels on, probably far more than a number of local cyclists in the area were able to do in their being polite.
And what does some constructive cooperation get you?
Washington is most bike-friendly state for sixth year
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And what has she accomplished in real terms for local cyclists there?
And what does some constructive cooperation get you?
Washington is most bike-friendly state for sixth year
And what does some constructive cooperation get you?
Washington is most bike-friendly state for sixth year
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judging from the close passes and rolled coal in ms. schill's videos i suspect that a plurality in jessamine co would view banning cyclists from "highways" as positive change.
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Washington is bike friendly ???? bull
They have the most hick towns with new mandatory helmet laws in the country I hear.
They have the most hick towns with new mandatory helmet laws in the country I hear.
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Not well to her, a full time publicity monger maybe, other cyclists have no problem with with the area in question. So, it seems, we should be complaining about something there is no reason to complain about just to appease antagonists from other states who have never come here or never will? When you take on a cause, you run the risk of that cause not resonating with people. There is a reason why all of her support only comes from people who know nothing about the issue.
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And let's assume for the sake of argument that she does start to bring about change. (Try not to laugh, it's a hypothetical.) I can't wait to see the look on people's faces when she tells them that a dedicated bike path is insulting and that it is preferential for her to operate at 12 mph in the middle of the lane where cars are doing 55 mph - and that anyone who thinks otherwise is evil.
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The attention she has brought goes something like this: "Why isn't she using that perfectly good several foot wide shoulder?" There is something to be said for picking your battles.
And let's assume for the sake of argument that she does start to bring about change. (Try not to laugh, it's a hypothetical.) I can't wait to see the look on people's faces when she tells them that a dedicated bike path is insulting and that it is preferential for her to operate at 12 mph in the middle of the lane where cars are doing 55 mph - and that anyone who thinks otherwise is evil.
And let's assume for the sake of argument that she does start to bring about change. (Try not to laugh, it's a hypothetical.) I can't wait to see the look on people's faces when she tells them that a dedicated bike path is insulting and that it is preferential for her to operate at 12 mph in the middle of the lane where cars are doing 55 mph - and that anyone who thinks otherwise is evil.
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Indirectly, make that two. I don't live in Kentucky. But in some of her videos'. She points out the garbage that ends up in the 'breakdown lane', in addition to stalled vehicles'. This thread reminded me of a situation last year on a local bike path. The problem wasn't a 'motorized' vehicle, pedestrians', or other cyclists' blocking the path. It was a dead rotting deer that a vehicle had hit. It was two weeks before the deer was removed from the bike path. That was just on the bike path. The judge who ordered Ms. Schill to ride in the 'breakdown' lane. Has more than a screw loose. The rumble strips are one thing. While they are terrible to ride over. Ms. Schill pointed out in several of her videos', how the edges' of the outside lanes of U.S. 27 in Kentucky, are cracked, and have divets. The only tire that could navigate the divets and survive. Would be a studded mountain bike tire. A road bike tire of any type would pop and/or cause the bike to crash. I initially thought she was being quite the risk-taker. But, Upon further reflection, I agree with her. I 'take the lane', not 'as warranted'. But for safety.
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Does anybody know what her go fund me account is for? From what I understand, her attorneys worked pro-bono and her fines and court costs were less than $500. Her fund has nearly $8500 dollars in it, that would buy several sets of Gatorskins to protect her from that shoulder debris.
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Does anybody know what her go fund me account is for? From what I understand, her attorneys worked pro-bono and her fines and court costs were less than $500. Her fund has nearly $8500 dollars in it, that would buy several sets of Gatorskins to protect her from that shoulder debris.
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