benjdm

I believe it's for an appeal, for fighting the remaining 2 189.300 and 189.290 tickets, and for fighting the wanton endangerment charge.

c_bach_115

Umm, her appeal started 4 months ago? Read the posts and see when the first posts were? I think she says it was originally to purchase some camera equipment and fight these awful charges? It also says "I chose to ride a bicycle because I had to feed my kids. I could not afford to operate and maintain a car." Could that be a play on certain out of state people to get them to donate to her cause?

-=(8)=-

I'm sure with all the support she gets here she'll get to 10k pretty soon. You out-of-state'rs who are adamant about her cause have donated, right?

benjdm

Yes. It's still the same fundraiser.
She started the gofundme AFTER going car free and AFTER her first tickets and AFTER people suggested it to her when the first news stories appeared. All this talk trying to portray her as someone trying to make a statement or change things is b.s.

I have.

dynodonn 

Usually that type of question is generally going to be brought up by individuals driving in the adjacent lanes doing 55 mph, and by cyclists who have ridden on the adjacent two lane roads in the area. She has picked her battle, but after seeing the outcome for a couple of BF members who went up against the judicial system, in separate incidents, it does not bode well for Ms. Schill.
From personal observations, I eventually see her either abiding by the judicial system's terms, moving closer to her work place, or moving away from the area entirely.

Why would I laugh?....especially after seeing the improvements to the cycling infrastructure in my locale.

-=(8)=-

You have have mentioned "My locale" or something close to that many times. Just out of curiosity, and respectfully, might I ask where that is?
Even before I know, I am going to assume most of its population is not lower income rural? If I'm wrong, obviously I stand corrected.
I am only trying to make the point that the incomes and tax revenues of various places determine allotments to infrastructure. Davis Ca. is going to enjoy better bike infrastructure than Harlan, KY for instance. They just "bike friendlied" Louisville in a lot of new places, and of course everyone is angry about it. Car people say it holds them up more, bike people say it was in the wrong places. No one is ever happy.

dynodonn 

This is to be expected, especially if the city municipalities and DOTs are staffed by persons with views of cyclists that lean more towards the recreational than transportational.

VTBike

Her legal fund is a mystery. From what I have read, it appears that her attorneys worked for no charge. She posted something on Facebook a couple of weeks ago about having only three days left to appeal and needing help finding an attorney to appeal. I have not heard anything about an appeal, so I wonder if it never happened.

I think we can say this based on the information is out there: There is no evidence that the money she raised has been used for its intended purpose. I am not saying it hasn't - I am just saying that I have yet to see any indication that it has.

kickstart

One of the local news sources reported that she had "resigned" from her job, and is now going to school to be an EKG technician.

c_bach_115

Another post from her donation page. See, I will give kudos when kudos are due. So any excess money is going to a good cause.

Kelly, I did as you suggested. I also reduced the amount. I've been advised that the court costs will need to be addressed as well as the miscellaneous needs for defending this case. I've changed the goal amount to a lower number for this reason. I think I was aiming too high before. I may be aiming too low now but I'm going to keep it here until it's proven otherwise. Any remainder will be donated to a bicycle charity. I'd like to split it between "Broke Spoke community bike shop" and "pedalKY" which is our fledgling cycling advocacy group.

benjdm

She passed and is now an EKG tech.

wphamilton

Does anyone know which states if any, other than Kentucky, say "highway" instead of "roadway" in their FRAP law?

VTBike

I stand corrected. Ms Schill has posted on her fundraising page that she has an attorney who will represent her on the appeal, the 4th & 5th tickets, and the criminal charge. She does not mention that the funds have been used to pay the attorney, but she also hasn't said that he is working for free.

trailmix

I do hope any excess does actually go to a good cause.

benjdm

Montana requires slow moving vehicles, including motorized ones, to be as far right as possible including the shoulder:

61-9-415. Slow-moving vehicles.
Kentucky doesn't have a bicycle specific FRAP law, as far as I know.

rydabent

The point I have been trying to get across exactly!!!!

-=(8)=-

And, like the post you responded to, mindless conjecturing and supposition, totally not relevant to anything.
Extremist status quo

rydabent

Mr Schill on a bike in the right lane is no different than a semi with a flat driving slow, or a tractor, or a horse drawn buggy. I find it amazing the hatred spewed by all the egotistical auto centric drivers that think that everyone should stay the hell out of their way. Share the road means just that. Get over your car me me me attitude!!!!!

dpeters11

Steve Magas (Ohio Bike Lawyer) helped Pro Bono, but isn't licensed in KY. He is not involved now. But even with an attorney working pro bono, there can be significant costs.

VTBike

Except that they are nothing alike. All of the vehicles you mentioned are several feet wide and can't ride with plenty of room to spare on the shoulder while allowing other users of the road to go about their business. Other than that it was a perfect analogy.

I call it a "common sense free from dogmatic ideation" attitude. If you hadn't noticed, this is a forum for bikers. You can't defend an indefensible argument by calling the audience something other than it is. If you've got some facts, so be it. I've yet to see you produce any that would change my opinion.

rydabent

ben

But according to the law you posted, it says as far to the right in the right lane or shoulder which again is Frap and open to the decision of the person driving or riding.

trailmix

I find it amazing the stupidity and ignorance spewed by people that have never laid eyes on the road in question. The shoulder is perfectly useable. I rode it, another member rode it. A cyclist even passed by on the shoulder while Schill was getting a ticket.

rydabent

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Personal attacks prove nothing, and are a waste of time. Everyone is entitled to their opinion including me.

Try posting your opinion on the subject rather that attacking other posters for theirs.

c_bach_115

They interpreted the law to say that a horse drawn buggy would not be allowed in the main traffic lanes, same with a semi or tractor(sometimes farm equipment falls under different rules?) going to slow. Have you seen anywhere that they were only going to apply to cyclist? I doubt they will actively patrol for it, would probably take a phone call/complaint which I think usually happened in Ms. Schill's case?

-=(8)=-

Its not a personal attack. You are interjecting stuff that has nothing to do with anything. Hypotheticals snatched out of your/someone else's imagination.
I'm actually surprised a Mod hasn't come along and told you to stay on-topic. The fact the average Mod would not want to murder their own brain cells on this nonsense is probably what has spared you from their wrath.