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Old 12-05-14, 10:40 AM
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Shoplifting may still be a problem,but I'm guessing that the folks with one hand can count the number of repeat offenders on that remaining hand....

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Old 12-05-14, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
However, the ability to receive a text while driving can eliminate a lot of useless driving. For example, I had a date cancel on me just over an hour ahead, when she was an hour and a half from home. Had I not checked that text, I would have driven two hours (there and back) for nothing, being another car on the road, which we keep saying we want to reduce. Had the same thing happen a lot when I was doing service calls in Dallas; I would get a message, check it at the next red light, and head to a different location or back to the office. Probably saved me 30-40 miles a week in already heavy traffic.
The ability to make last minute schedule changes via cell phone has in large part contributed to the need for it. Why plan ahead properly when you don’t have to? Just text, text, text! Yay!

How did you all manage in the pre-cell phone days? How do I STILL manage without a cell phone?

Even though I've never had one, I do see some value in the things. But to be so reliant on it that one can't even handle an activity as dangerous as driving without playing with the blasted thing is very sad indeed.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
The ability to make last minute schedule changes via cell phone has in large part contributed to the need for it. Why plan ahead properly when you don’t have to? Just text, text, text! Yay!
Hard to plan ahead very accurately when you're talking about a drive that normally takes 90 minutes, but ~10% of the time takes nearly three hours, and the other person is making a similar drive to meet in the middle. Now we can adjust the meeting point and time as needed when one gets stuck or needs to take a large detour.

How did you all manage in the pre-cell phone days? How do I STILL manage without a cell phone?
We wasted a lot of gas on unnecessary trips and side trips.

Even though I've never had one, I do see some value in the things.
Well, as long as your mom can just yell down the basement stairs to you, I'm sure no one else will see much use in you having one either.
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Nobody in my family uses a phone while driving. We all use a phone while passengers. Do not want.
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
We wasted a lot of gas on unnecessary trips and side trips.
Speak for yourself. My wife and I never do.

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I already have a perfectly fine working phone, thank you.

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Originally Posted by KD5NRH
We wasted a lot of gas on unnecessary trips and side trips.
Not really. I don't go out on a whim, I go out when I have a specific set of things to get, I plan ahead, decide which stores I'm going to, talk to my wife about whether she needs anything as well, or perhaps she'll be going near those places in the next day or so and she'll handle it instead.

I sometimes don't go to out for 2 or 3 weeks straight, until I have something I really have to have right now, or I have built up enough things to justify going out.
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Originally Posted by qclabrat
sensitive topic, but a passionate one for me, so will weigh in for a second

Texting and driving has contributed to more deaths annually than drunk driving
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Texting and driving being culturally acceptable really bothers me and statistics clearly show it is at least as dangerous when compared to DWI

Getting info/data at an instant is as addictive as drugs and alcohol to some...
The passion is obvious, the fear of texting drivers is obvious; the statistics are not.

Any credible reference for these alleged accident/death statistics? Please no references to laboratory simulations, Internet blogs or other sorta-like but not really statistical data about real life accidents or accidental deaths.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
The passion is obvious, the fear of texting drivers is obvious; the statistics are not.

Any credible reference for these alleged accident/death statistics? Please no references to laboratory simulations, Internet blogs or other sorta-like but not really statistical data about real life accidents or accidental deaths.
How can there be statistics when there are no investigations or records to source.

Until police readily pick up cell phones and examine the call records after crashes, and check a box on a form... there will NOT be what you are asking for. Unlike alcohol, use of the cell phone prior to a collision doesn't leave traces in your blood stream.
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Originally Posted by genec
How can there be statistics when there are no investigations or records to source.

Until police readily pick up cell phones and examine the call records after crashes, and check a box on a form... there will NOT be what you are asking for. Unlike alcohol, use of the cell phone prior to a collision doesn't leave traces in your blood stream.
Sarcasm Alert (but this topic begs for it);
.. And another thing - If I'm bound by a contract, from say one of those massively altruistic (or maybe just "massive") Telecom companies, and I either get erased by a texting motorist or commit suicide-by-texting in my own vehicle, would the Telco/ISP let me out of the balance owed on the contract, without penalty?
Why is it not "about" Personal Responsibility, Accountability for, or Ownership of, ones' own actions? Like driving used to be (before the insurance co offered a "discount" to drivers willing to install a recording device so they can "call you on it" when you drive badly (and what's the over-under on when THOSE become standard feature in consumer autos?? <eye roll>)), and like bicycling and phone use and life in general for that matter ought to be (or so it seems to me. Wow I truly wrecked that sentence).
Anyway, you own what you do, and Golden Rule your way thru the gray areas. Be watchful out there though - Chivalry might not be dead, but Integrity, doing the right thing when (you think) nobody's lookin', I'm not so sure.
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Originally Posted by genec
How can there be statistics when there are no investigations or records to source.
Can I assume then that you agree that qclabrat's assertions "Texting and driving has contributed to more deaths annually than drunk driving" is driven by fear and passion as well as guesswork, rather than any real world accident statistics/data? And the same presumption of emotional response applies to similar fear driven assertions by other passionate posters on BF about the threat to cyclists?
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Can I assume then that you agree that qclabrat's assertions "Texting and driving has contributed to more deaths annually than drunk driving" is driven by fear and passion as well as guesswork, rather than any real world accident statistics/data? And the same presumption of emotional response applies to similar fear driven assertions by other passionate posters on BF about the threat to cyclists?
While I agree that it is quite likely that indeed more people have been killed annually by drunk drivers, I don't agree that fear of texting/phone using drivers is irrational by passionate posters... I think the reality is that like drunk drivers back in the '50's, we really don't know how bad this situation is, and over time, reality will dawn upon us.

I think texting/talking drivers ARE a problem... and I base this on my daily observations of drivers, no doubt just as much as some have also observed intoxicated motorists and thought... you know, that guy is going to kill someone.

I can't speculate on the numbers though... that would just be a wild guess.

And I know you hate this... but all those "studies" show there IS something there. And if people can "fail" like the video below when walking... I believe they can also "fail" while texting and driving.


BTW this is NOT the only person walking into a fountain while texting.
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BTW ILTB... you do know that such a statistic for motorists using cell phones causing collisions would actually be quite difficult to amass... just to find out of someone is using a cell phone you have to submit a subpoena to the telco carrier to determine if the phone was in use during or just prior to the collision... not an easy process. Unless laws change requiring one to submit phone records after a collision, the data you want just will not be available. But laws do change... as does technology... the first Breathalyzer for alcohol testing wasn't invented until the late '60s.
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