Putting a motor on an old cruizer
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Putting a motor on an old cruizer
I am restoring a 1940's columbia cruizer. Today I got an idea. How possible would it be to mount a motor on it? I don't mean the kind of thing where you have to pedal it up to speed, but more of a minibike setup. I don't know very much about motors, but I am quite handy with tools. I don't want to have to do major welding. I suppose what I am really wondering is, are there any kits available for this sort of thing?
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get one of the old flip flop style hubs, put a single speed direct drive sprocket on the 'off' side and a centrifical clutch on the motor along with a decent throttle control should work nicely. May still need to pedal a bit to get to a speed that won't stall the motor depending on gearing you work out.
Once hooked up a weedwhacker motor to drive a wheel on a pair of roller skates, it was fun as anything, and fast as all get out but almost impossible to control, I only rode them twice. Thought I could control the speed to some extent by lifting my heel, didn't work, as soon as it started moving, you almost did the splits so your weight went on the drive tire, and all you could do is hope you missed everything in your way.
Finally took them apart and trashed the skates.
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Once hooked up a weedwhacker motor to drive a wheel on a pair of roller skates, it was fun as anything, and fast as all get out but almost impossible to control, I only rode them twice. Thought I could control the speed to some extent by lifting my heel, didn't work, as soon as it started moving, you almost did the splits so your weight went on the drive tire, and all you could do is hope you missed everything in your way.
Finally took them apart and trashed the skates.
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I did a google search and found this:
https://www.kingsmotorbikes.com/Engine_Kit1.htm
Does anybody know how good these are, or if there are better ones available?
https://www.kingsmotorbikes.com/Engine_Kit1.htm
Does anybody know how good these are, or if there are better ones available?
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I'd look here: simpsonmotorbikes.com
I was talking with a friend about some of theses lo-buck motors and the feeling I got fromk him was that they were more or less 'seconds' with poor port positioning and bore plating... and minimal (read NO) support. The guys at Simson really seem to be into these motors... complete with mods.
They'd be quite appropriate for you Columbia.
Good luck regardless of how you proceede.
I was talking with a friend about some of theses lo-buck motors and the feeling I got fromk him was that they were more or less 'seconds' with poor port positioning and bore plating... and minimal (read NO) support. The guys at Simson really seem to be into these motors... complete with mods.
They'd be quite appropriate for you Columbia.
Good luck regardless of how you proceede.
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Try https://www.spitfiremotorworks.com/ looks real nice and very retro.
Check out this site for some superb older style conversions. https://www.whizzerbikes.com/homepage.html
Check out this site for some superb older style conversions. https://www.whizzerbikes.com/homepage.html
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Just for the extra cc's I'm going to have to go with the 80cc king model. I'm starting to think I should make this thing into a half baked Captain America looking chopper, which leads me into another question. Does anybody make nice looking chopper forks, or will I have to do what the name implies and chop and weld the fork?
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or you could do it your self
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/108132-what-part-2-a.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/108132-what-part-2-a.html
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The name chopper comes from not cutting and welding the forks, but from chopping and rewelding the head tube angle.
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Cabbana, I wish I knew enough to make something like that. I suppose I will eventually, but to start I think I'll do something more simple. I have to ask, how fast will that thing go?
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Just for the extra cc's I'm going to have to go with the 80cc king model. I'm starting to think I should make this thing into a half baked Captain America looking chopper, which leads me into another question. Does anybody make nice looking chopper forks, or will I have to do what the name implies and chop and weld the fork?
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Lots of pictures of old motorized cruisers at https://www.whizzerick.com
It's obviously a labor of love with the site owner, a look at his five-page gallery will tell you. Lots of variations of powered bicycles and flyweight motos.
It's obviously a labor of love with the site owner, a look at his five-page gallery will tell you. Lots of variations of powered bicycles and flyweight motos.
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Cabbana, I wish I knew enough to make something like that. I suppose I will eventually, but to start I think I'll do something more simple. I have to ask, how fast will that thing go?
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wait i found it check out the video its to funny
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/102955-what.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/102955-what.html
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Look for a hub motor for your bike. It's much easier to install than anything else, and usually the motor comes in a kit with batteries, the motor controller and a throttle for the handle bars.
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I stopped by this place on my way through the desert. They seemed to know what they were doing and were doing a pretty good business from my opinion. They offered to convert one of my bikes for I think
about $360. Not sure they do that for someone shipping a bike in, though. They tend to like building the
whole bike from their materials and parts..
https://www.spookytoothcycles.com
about $360. Not sure they do that for someone shipping a bike in, though. They tend to like building the
whole bike from their materials and parts..
https://www.spookytoothcycles.com
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Got my king 80cc motor yesterday. Slight change of plans. My buddy and I will be installing it on my 97 Schwinn Mesa on Sunday. My cruiser is now in good working order and looks pretty cool (I'd post pics if I had the proper camera), but my old mesa is more stable and it hasn't seen more that 10 miles since 2001, so it seems like a good idea. Additionaly, even though I haven't remotely assmbeled this thing yet, its obvious that Stacey was right about King Motors, you get what you pay for with these things. A cheap, chinese made motor has no place on a cruiser I have put more than 600 dollars and countless hours into. I probably will put a motor on my columbia by next summer, but it won't be a king. If nothing else I'll get one of those simpsons, but I don't like how small their motors are. My boss is a car guy and told me I could mount a chainsaw motor on a bike fairly easily and go well beyond safe speeds, so that might be another option.
Anyway, the instructions for my new motor say for the 1st 50 miles, go no faster than 15 mph for 30 miniutes at a time. How bad of an idea is it to ignore the instructions and have at it?
Anyway, the instructions for my new motor say for the 1st 50 miles, go no faster than 15 mph for 30 miniutes at a time. How bad of an idea is it to ignore the instructions and have at it?
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Usually the biggest thing with modern motors is to not hold a constant speed vary it regularly and try to run WOT only for short bursts.
Having said that some of the chinese motors are based on older designs/materials so prehaps vary it but don't WOT for the first 50 miles.
Enjoy and don't forget to let us know how it goes.
Having said that some of the chinese motors are based on older designs/materials so prehaps vary it but don't WOT for the first 50 miles.
Enjoy and don't forget to let us know how it goes.
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Wonderful wonderful wonderful wonderful. I'd love to do one with a banana seat or modified motorcycle seat and stunt pegs at the rear axle to carry a passenger. But does anyone do it in a four-stroke? What good is 200 mpg when you're adding a hundred times as much organics to the atmosphere? Not to mention the damn noise pollution...
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