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Old 06-26-09, 10:31 AM   #1
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Rhode Island School of Designs "Human Powered Vehicle"

Looks like a pretty cool bike.

http://hpv09.blogspot.com/
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Old 06-26-09, 11:47 PM   #2
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It's cool, but I would really expect more of a useful vehicle. I mean most of the stuff on it doesn't really improve the function of the bike, I thought is was going to fold or something.
I like to see cool bikes, but they were in a position to create a really good utility bike design.
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Old 06-27-09, 09:14 AM   #3
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It's an interesting design, looks cool, but is it an improvement? It's hard to beat a rigid mountain bike with a milk crate on back for a campus bike. Might just be me. but little wheel bikes and semi recumbent design are best for cruising the boardwalk.
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Old 06-27-09, 01:04 PM   #4
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Also, the geometry is a lot like the Giant Revive. What's cool about the revive is that it can fit a very wide variety of people very quickly.
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Old 06-27-09, 08:55 PM   #5
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It strikes me as a typical example of people that have never ridden a bike trying to invent a better bike.
The implied disadvantages of the "regular" bike:
-You have to LIFT the front wheel to put it in a bike rack
-Wide flat objects don't fit on a rack easily
-It's hard to get on
-You have to ride with one hand. Couldn't tell why, was he carrying his wide flat package in the other hand?
The first item is an absolute non-issue- it would depend on the bike rack design whether you had to lift anything or not, and anyone that can't lift the front wheel of a bike probably shouldn't be riding one.
The second item was solved long ago when they invented the Basket. All he's gotta do is mount a basket or grocery panniers on his bike and he's good to go.
The third item seems to be a non-issue with actual riders, and is one of the things that implies the inventors never actually rode bicycles before.
And having the Basket would take care of the last item as well.

Features or Implied advantages of their bike:
-Front drum brake- These have been around forever, and could be put on any bike, just most people don't want them. Come to think of it, I don't guess it had a rear brake, unless that was a coaster-brake 3-speed hub.
-3-speed- Was pretty well outdated when derailleurs were invented.
-small wheels- another evidence of non-riders inventing it- larger wheels seem to be an advantage, not a disadvantage. At least very few riders prefer them on conventional bikes.
-basket instead of rack- not exactly new
-convoluted drive train- Took me a minute to figure out why they did it this way. It's because of those 1-sided axles. They couldn't fit any conventional multi-gear system on their wheels, so they had to have a jack shaft for the gear changing. Not exactly a feature. Come to think of it, I guess the chains are enclosed, but that also means you can't get to them, either.
-1-side forks- This is actually a cool feature (although the axles looked awfully small)- but it didn't occur to them to show WHY it is cool. It's not because you can take the wheel off with an allen wrench. It's because you don't NEED to take the wheel off to fix a flat. That's handy. Also makes the forks heavier, though.
-Upright ride- that's been done.
All in all, they've cobbled a bike together with one neat feature, and a bunch of rehashed ideas from the old days.
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Old 06-27-09, 09:14 PM   #6
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Old 06-28-09, 01:39 PM   #7
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The enclosed drivetrain is an advantage for life of components, plus you won't get chain gunk on you pant leg. It's a problem if you need to repair anything on the road.

I believe it would be a nice commuter if you lived in a flat city and had to travel 5 miles or less to work. I live in Seattle, so the 3 speeds would need to be increased. The advantage of not having to remove the wheel to change a flat is a nice feature, especially with the internally geared hub which can make rear wheel removal a chore.
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Old 06-29-09, 05:24 PM   #8
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flea market. $40
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Old 06-30-09, 11:12 AM   #9
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Construction Method is Very Similar to my Daughter's
Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxQXhKn7B4

The Type 9 Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle appears at 0:37 seconds into this video. Very Useful, the cargo compartment inside the fairing held my Camcorder and spare batteries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxQXhKn7B4
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Old 06-30-09, 11:29 AM   #10
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Here is ANOTHER video clip, in which I am shooting video while riding the bike, you can also see the interior of the fairing in this shot, the conductor tells me to put the bike in the first car of the train:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97XhLh1Auak
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Construction Method is Very Similar to my Daughter's
Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxQXhKn7B4

The Type 9 Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle appears at 0:37 seconds into this video. Very Useful, the cargo compartment inside the fairing held my Camcorder and spare batteries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxQXhKn7B4
Oh look, the F40ph!
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Old 07-08-09, 05:22 PM   #12
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it's a neat bike. gotta love the RISD students lol
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Old 07-13-09, 03:48 PM   #13
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flea market. $40
That is nice. I had heard of the Huffy Venice, but I never saw a picture before. I have a Worksman Y3K. I guess they are both knockoffs of the Giant Revive. The Y3K is out of production. Is the Huffy Venice still being produced?
I rode my Y3K into New York City a couple of weeks ago, Jamaica Queens to be exact. Then I took it home on the train.
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Old 07-13-09, 04:07 PM   #14
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I have more video, I took pictures in between stages of the build.

This is my Daughters Fiberglass Bicycle under construction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NstkhkW5paM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjyS_lXE6F0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0akAccfjv4

Outside;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ4JitU1B24

In motion, with volunteer test riders:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaVxNntUSnU
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Old 07-13-09, 04:50 PM   #15
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If you have ever seen the RISD fashion show you wouldn't expect anything else. I have had many friends who went there as I live in RI. The main requirement for admission is tuition as I was informed while viewing the 1978 senior show. Small wheels mean more work I'll keep my antique Raleigh Sports thank you.
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Old 07-13-09, 07:34 PM   #16
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my x-girlfriend use to go to RISD, i hated going there..I went to school in a suburban campus just outside of providence..and most people in RI and MA used to laugh at those kids... Just walking around the campus its hard not to feel awkward..people try way too hard to be unique there
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Keep in mind that it's not necessarily about the bike - it's about learning the design process. These are students, not partners in a venture startup. In a sense, it helps to suspend what you know about bikes ("never ridden a bike before") in order to work through the process. Is it a better bike? Not for all people. Is it a good bike? Well, if you were starting from a blank piece of paper, it's got much of a commuter's requirements covered. Should the kids be proud of it? Sure! It's a cool bike in its own way.
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Is the Huffy Venice still being produced?
i don't know. i had never seen or heard of it 'til i saw it. i just picked it up 'cause it was fairly cheap.
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