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Old 11-01-11, 06:46 AM   #1
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Cruiser frames with mtb geometry?

The only one I know of is the Schwinn Panther. There's also the Retrotec frames which are closer to road geo I think. If you could pinpoint any frames similar to the Schwinn Panther or something similar please do, thank you .
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Electra Rocket, ca. late 90s:

Also the "Bomber 21"?

Gary Fisher Klunker, '96-97?


And then of course there's the new Trek/Fisher Sawyer:


I don't think the top two were too popular -- guy I know is doing a custom with an Electra Rocket frame because he found a good deal on a used bike. Might be able to find them cheap, but I don't see them come up for sale too often.

The new Sawyer is something like $1200-1300 new, but that's a complete bike, so if you're comparing to a custom Retrotec frame, a complete bike for less than a Retrotec frame would cost.
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Old 11-02-11, 05:39 PM   #3
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Those are all nice. A lot of options in one post. Thank you .
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Then again, just adding fenders to a mountain bike gets a lot of that cruiser gestalt.

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True. Looks pretty cool.
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I loved the Klunker when I saw one in the flesh. It was a bit pricey for what is either a cool cruiser or a mediocre mountain bike. Posting yet again a picture of my late model Schwinn Jaguar mountain cruiser. Found a frame on Craigslist, bought a cheap GT MTB and swapped over the components. Worked well as a street cruiser. As a MTB, it did have ground clearance issues, but was OK on flatter trails.

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Also there's the '97 KHS Wedgewood

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I made one using a Schwinn Point beach from Walmart. I only used just the frame as everything else was junk. It's fairly light(a little over three pounds!),has canti bosses and integrated derailleur hanger. The downfall is that it has a american sized bottom bracket and uses a 1" headset. I used some older stuff to give it that klunker look like an old Ross bullmoose bar/stem setup and the matching chrome lugged fork.The other parts were mostly new stuff...shifter, v brakes, Deore RD... I didn't have a front derailleur installed as I didn't have anything in my parts bins. Not too on sure on the geometry but it's a little slacker on the angles but finding a Panther is like finding hen's teeth every time when I've looked. These are the only pictures I have of before I traded it. I think I had maybe with $300 with all the parts including the bike. They usually go for like $150 at Walmart but I picked mine up on CL for $75. The parts didn't last one summer that were on it. I stripped it and gave it a Molteni inspired paint job as I'm a vintage road bike kind of guy but love the look of a klunker with some slight modern touches. Plus I had some decals made up from another project I put onto it.

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Every bike on this page is really cool . I'm a noob though so I can't visually tell regular cruiser frames from cruiser mtb frames. What do I look for, the bikes description?, overall look of the frame?. If I knew what to look for I could probably find a decent frame on craigslist in my area. Thanks to everyone for your input and time.
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A cruiser frame won't have mountain bike geometry. In my case, I did what the early pioneers of mountain biking did. I upgraded what I could and worked around the rest.

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A lot of the OG MTBs (1970s action) were made from olde Schwinn Excelsiors. They're a little pricey nowadays but if your barn fu is good you might find one.

MTB geometry has varied quite a bit. From the early days 68/68 angles with long wheelbase, to early 80s 70/72 with long wheelbase to late 80s similar angles, but tightened up rear triangles to mid 90s 74/73 to now where even XC stuff is often back down to 70/72 and AM stuff gets really slack these days, 68/70 frames aren't uncommon. So you need to define your MTB era and for current stuff, subgenre.

The KHS mentioned above also had a cousin called the Brentwood, but was only a cruiser style for a couple of years before going crappy comfort bike style. Breezer also came out with a Klunker repro in 1996 called the Ignaz X.



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Every bike on this page is really cool . I'm a noob though so I can't visually tell regular cruiser frames from cruiser mtb frames. What do I look for, the bikes description?, overall look of the frame?. If I knew what to look for I could probably find a decent frame on craigslist in my area. Thanks to everyone for your input and time.
A lot of the Klunker repros will be made of CrMo and will have a nicer "ping" to the frame than olde stuff like the Schwin Excelsiors or new cruisers from Nirve and the like. I guess the next thing to look for is bottom bracket type. Ashtabula generally means olde-school or lowend new stuff, 3-piece often means better new stuff, sometimes more MTB. And then gears, I reckon.

Depending on what project you have in mind, look for frame materials, frame weight, rear spacing (although respacing a long wheelbase steel frame often isn't difficult), fork steerer diameter, BB type, brake bosses, etc.

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The only one I know of is the Schwinn Panther. There's also the Retrotec frames which are closer to road geo I think. If you could pinpoint any frames similar to the Schwinn Panther or something similar please do, thank you .
I'd call the Schwinn Panther a 5-speed (or however many speeds it has) cruiser, not a mountain bike. Those Retrotec frames are NICE! Never seen one before. Looking at the Retrotec double, I can see why you'd say road geo, that was also pretty typical mid-90s XC MTB geo also.

I ran my Mongoose Cruiser style for a couple of years:

as a 1x7 with some 25" bars from a 1959 Western Flyer. The goose is only 24.5 lbs with flat bars and the swept steel bars only added a pound or so. Lightest cruiser I've been on.



and later wussed on the 7-speed and went back to 3x7 with some 27" bars:


Monitor in tow. by Lester Of Puppets, on Flickr

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Old 11-08-11, 04:17 PM   #13
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You guys are awesome! Thanks for all the info and inspiration. I really like your bikes .
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