Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - your dream wheels?

Ok, so now that i've used my handy new employee discount to get my sugino 75's (what a difference... so worth it) it's time to build my dream wheels.

I ride a grey steamroller, by the way, for the fashion-concious.

I'm thinkin' black phil wood hubs with black spokes (no idea what kind) and some sweet black rims, but i'm not sure-- i was thinkin' open pros but i know i can do better. i don't have brakes, so i have lots of options.

i really want some pink phils, but i know that's just not real possible...

as is fashionable these days, the deep v's are probably a good choice for rims. the sidewalls are almost always machined (even on the black rims). i think it's pretty hot, but who knows. i've heard tale of there being deep v's that are fully black, but the velocity site doesn't show the deep v's as having that option.

there's my two cents.

if only i could get deep v's without all that advertisey writing all over 'em...

i'm pretty sure that you can easily peel off those decals. i know that it's quite easy to peel them off of their aerohead rims. might get a little residue, but nothing that some rubbing alcohol or goo gone won't deal with easily.

Pink Phils with black rims and black spokes? I just got my dream wheels.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=99634

High Flange SLR Phil's to CXP-30's.

Pink Phils with black rims and black spokes? I just got my dream wheels.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=99634

I agree, partially. I would cast my vote though for white rims:

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/apr/cho.jpg

Pink tires anyone?

where do you get pink phils from? maybe i'm just not trying hard enough here...

as is fashionable these days, the deep v's are probably a good choice for rims. the sidewalls are almost always machined (even on the black rims). i think it's pretty hot, but who knows. i've heard tale of there being deep v's that are fully black, but the velocity site doesn't show the deep v's as having that option.

there's my two cents.

Velocity seems pretty flexible. I sent them an email asking for white 700's and they said "No Problem" I have heard of other people calling and asking for colored non machined rims and got them. They have a lot more than what they list in their catalog and online. Just send them an email and ask, I think you can find what you want. I like the look of the pink hubs. I am building up White Velocity Deep V's with black spokes and it looks awesome. goodluck!

High Flange SLR Phil's to CXP-30's.

seconded on these!

Do they make white phils?

m.

This is what I know: Marcus at Yojimbo's (http://www.yojimbosgarage.com) had three pairs of these about two months ago. He's only got a road set left. Apparently, Phil Wood are starting to experiment with anodizing due to demand - I've read threads where there are green and blue Phils out in SF, Freewheel I think.

Marcus is getting some anodized in a deep red now, and for what I can tell - you just request it. Not sure if you can do this on your own or if you have to do it through a shop. It costs an extra $40 per hub.

i've got mine; sliver phils laced to cxp33's

i've seen, with my own eyes, pink, green, and blue phils, all at freewheel hayes in san francisco.

i just got mine on the spicer. fixed/fixed phils laced to the velocity aeroheads with black dt spokes. i honestly can't believe how smooth and solid feeling this wheelset is. on the steamroller, i have pauls laced to the alex r390 rims, those are nice feeling, but holy crap, the phils are amazing. i never wouldve thought what a difference a really GOOD wheelset makes, but now i know. oh, and absntr, your bike is uber-hot, it looks amazing and i'm glad you're riding again.

all black frame, black miche supertype post, black brooks swallow/swift saddle, black 3t quill stem, b123 bars - black keirin grips, selle storica saddle.. or black selle royal, purple phil hubs & king headset, black spokes & anodized open pro rims, either black or purple nipples. mmmmmmmm nipples

(deep aero rims are ugly... my opinion... too obtrusive)

Black phils laced to Saavedra arrow rims. Unfrotunately, I haven't been able to track down this mythical rim. If anyone knows of one for sale, let me know. I had to settle for Deep Vs...

Having put the Phils through some heavy duty riding this weekend I can concur: they are smooth.

Originally Marcus (http://www.yojimbosgarage.com) thought he had a lead on some deep Campy Atlanta rims (34mm v section) in silver and I originally ordered a silver Phil hubset. His supplier was wrong though and so I switched the build out to the black/pink combo.

On another note: does anyone know anyone who's ridden the Storkia saddle? Aesthetically they appeal to me, but I have no idea how they hold up performance wise or if the cost is justified.

I wouldn't mind replacing my respaced-to-135mm Sansin hub with a nice Phil KISS-OFF double-fixed. I haven't really looked into new 26" rims, though.

DTSwiss R1.1 's are sweet ass rims, of got a set on my touring bike. there's nothing on the market i'd otherwise use. it's what i use when i build wheels for my langster

My current dream/reality wheels are the Suntour Superbe Pros that I have laced to the Aeroheads. If dream wheels, same hubs with some Fir or Ambrosio tubbies with the rear wheels tied and soldered.

i currently own two of my dream wheelsets:
i have mavic ellipses on my bianchi pista and dura-ace 7700 rear/7800 front hubs laced to 28 hole bronze cxp30's on my guerciotti. it's gross.

i also would love some of the new limited gold pauls laced to some gold velocity deep v's. i would also love some dura-ace 7600's laced to anything. even a hairdryer.

Need to tell somebody who cares... my dream wheels are shipping today. It's okay to have more than one dream, right? Silver 32h, high flange Phils laced to open pros. Should get them Thursday. This is what they're gonna hold up: Pinarello lugged steel.

My dream wheels would be real track hubs, not the suicide ones I am running on my bikes now...
Something like IROs with some good rims; better than the wobbly single wall POS's that I have on there now...mmn IRO base wheelset

Need to tell somebody who cares... my dream wheels are shipping today. It's okay to have more than one dream, right? Silver 32h, high flange Phils laced to open pros. Should get them Thursday. This is what they're gonna hold up: Pinarello lugged steel.

that bike looks amazing. an all silver wheelset is really going to complete it... are those 3ttt bars?

thanks... they are 3TTT bars, and stem (scored that one off ebay for $7). my favorite part is the seatpost... salsa makes a really nice post.

I have also been thinking about a new wheelset because I just nuked my crappy suzue basic yesterday (lockring threads gone). I was originally thinking some phils laced to deep v's, but keith at cavern cycles was convincing me that I'd be best served by level hubs laced to cxp33 rims. Its not going to look as pretty as phil/deep v's, but it may be better in the long run. What do you guys think about a silver wheelset on this bike rather than the silver/black ones it has on now? (link to bike below, but its all changed pretty much except the wheels and frame)

I'm thinkin' black phil wood hubs with black spokes (no idea what kind) and some sweet black rims, but i'm not sure-- i was thinkin' open pros but i know i can do better. i don't have brakes, so i have lots of options.

well my favorite black rims are fir zenith rims. ive got some and think they look pretty sweet as well as being original. take alook at em here http://www.fircerchi.com/Dati/prodotti/zenith.html

i had the hots for these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7149108084
but then, i'm a minimalist.

i still may get my mechanic to build me a rear like that.

i had the hots for these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7149108084
but then, i'm a minimalist.

i still may get my mechanic to build me a rear like that.

those hibs hhave alot more holes drilled than their are spokes. i think that those wheels put to much stress on the holes that are used which runs the risk of breaking them. id wanna get an opinion from someone who knows this stuff before i bought those

Dream wheels: PW high flange SLR 28f/32r, fixed/fixed in black. Sapim CX-ray aero spokes. Rims: Zipp 415 carbon clinchers (rims used for 303 wheelset.)

Status: Sacha has the rims. As of 2 weeks ago, the spokes had been out of stock, but were now made and at the "blackening" stage. Since this would take a little while, I'm having the original hubs swapped for the SLRs. Also, Brent at PW said they didn't make any 28F for this first run of the SLRs, he would get the guys to knock one out and send it to Sacha.

Completion: Dunno. Maybe May. This is a side/weekend project for Sacha (so as not to disrupt his regular scheduled frames.) Mine will be done when it's done. The extra time has made it possible to change around the hubs. And the 17t PW cog should be out then too.

Suntour superbee high flange hubs, Campy montreal rims silver
rear 32 hole 3 cross tied and soldered.
front 32 hole radial.
2.0 dt swiss spokes brass nipples.

paul black high flanges, silver spokes, plain open pros. i have a rear wheel just like this now and it is light, perfect and stable. understated and bombproof.

maybe i'm just too old, but i'm just not turned on by the pretty bikes.

i had the hots for these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7149108084
but then, i'm a minimalist.

i still may get my mechanic to build me a rear like that.


are those going on the cannnondale? did you get that frame yet? I was thinking low spoke count too but decided to go traditional on the fixie.

Anyone know how well annodized wheels hold up as far as scratched go? I lock my front and rear together so would they get messed up?


My vote is go either a stealth all black bike or black and white scheme which is what i'm gonna go for. anyone know where i can score some white spokes?

Give me a bombproof version of Nimble Crosswinds. Short of that, I want black Zipp track hubs on black Deep-Vs. It's too bad things like the Corima 4-spoke wheels don't stand up to potholes and the like too well.

now mind you, this is strictly based on observation, but I think the deep vs are like the pbr of rims. Everybody wants them, but not for reasons that make any sense. Other than color availability I can't see any reason to choose them over any number of other rims. They're heavy, they've got no eyelets and I just don't understand how people can like that big flat sidewall. Unless money is a concern, there's much better choices out there.

I think the main appeal of the deep v is that everyone else has them.

So, yeah. I think you're right.

i <3 my silver phils laced silver to anodized gray open pros. i polished the hubs up nice and clean so they reflect sun in two circles elongating on the ground when i ride.

if i were to get a new set, i'd want the same. maybe a skinnier wheel than the 700x23 i've got now. and i'd ride it brakeless so i wouldn't eat up the paint.

you shouldn't eat paint, neuron, it will make you dumb.

When I was discussing rims with Marcus (http://www.yojimbosgarage.com) he made a few suggestions concerning what would make a good rim for Chicago's urban environment. Chicago is flat and has nice smooth patches of roads but as you head out of the downtown area, there are some really bumpy streets that stretch for miles and miles with potholes and debris galore. I also tend to ride in industrial areas for photography excursions and because I like exploring abandoned buildings from time to time.

Given where I'd be riding, the following suggestions were made:

Velocity Deep V's
Velocity Fusions (lower profile, a mix between a deep v and an aerohead)
FIR Net 97

I've also talked at length with many other people and shops about Sun Venus rims and Mavix CXP33's.

Granted, I wanted the look of the deep V's and I'm not all too bothered by weight. Marcus also said he liked building with Velocity's especially the Deep V's because they come rounder and hold up to a lot of abuse. Which is what I wanted, a strong functional wheelset that would hold up to Chicago streets. And that's what I got.

While many may go for aesthetics alone or word of mouth (which isn't a bad thing by far), you should get the rims that suit your riding style, your body/weight and where you'll be riding your bike.

In the future, I'd like to try the Phil Woods again (they are buttery indeed) with some Open Pros on a touring style/randonner bike. I've heard good things about those rims.

i have my dream wheels.. black surly 135mm OLN free/fixed laced with black spokes to salsa delgado rims.... oops, but these are on a SS MTB, sorry for being such a jerk and ruining this fixie wheel partay. MUAHAHAHAHAAA

but anyhoo my fixie wheelset im going to be lacing soon will consist of an old school dura-ace front hub, the stepped flanges style where all the spoke heads face in, black spokes, white or black velocity aerohead on the front. for the rear a polished paul laced with black spokes to a white or black deep-v. since all i have is the frame (thank you t-town) im not really sure what kinda component color schemes i wanna do...

you shouldn't eat paint, neuron, it will make you dumb.


MUST... RESIST... TEMPTATION... TO BE... A... JERK.

I chose the Deep V's for the same reason as absntr. They are well known for their ability to take a beating. While I know others live in my neighborhood that ride on Open Pros and MA3's and have not had any significant problems, I really wanted a rim that was bombproof and they seemed like a good choice. To be honest I really don't like the look of the Deep V as much as a standard non-aero road rim but for me it's about having a sturdy wheel that will last me a long time not a fashion show(but it is fun to have a nice looking bike)

as is fashionable these days, the deep v's are probably a good choice for rims. the sidewalls are almost always machined (even on the black rims). i think it's pretty hot, but who knows. i've heard tale of there being deep v's that are fully black, but the velocity site doesn't show the deep v's as having that option.

there's my two cents.

Now you're forcing me to post the picture of my wheels again. Really, I'm not trying to show them off or anything.

http://chemicaldream.com/images/TrackParked.jpg

I agree with the DT Swiss poster. Those are nice rims and I saw a pair laced to black Phil single sided here in DC the other day. Very nice. I have a pair on my DT 240S hubs on my RB. Easy to work on and not easilly damaged.

I'm about to build up a Level rear hub (flip flop fixed/fixed) with black DT 14/15 spokes and a Sun Mistral Rim (very light, low profile V-section, greyish). My front wheel is a Sun Mistral on a 20H Phil road hub with DT bladed spokes. The rim for the back is a little shop worn so it won't look perfect, but I'm less concerned with flash on this bike, then I am with having a matching set of wheels (like the unitary feel, don't care so much about a perfect look). (Although the spokes won't match - I'm ok with that). No more slipping lockrings, fussing about with that stupid wrench, blah blah blah. Built 32H 3x it should stand up to daily 30mi rt commutes on bumpy bike trails and the occassional skip/skid. I did get a front brake so I don't do that as much anymore (but that is kind of a separate thread).

i had the hots for these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7149108084
but then, i'm a minimalist.

i still may get my mechanic to build me a rear like that.

the concept on those is nice, but Suzue Basics!? geez. that's kinda lame.

the concept on those is nice, but Suzue Basics!? geez. that's kinda lame.

While I imagine they would work fine for the track, you are right. Kind of a weak choice for a nice wheel.

Do y'all think these wheels will fit on my steamroller?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/68756091.html
I think my dropouts are 120's (it's the grey one) but I think this hub is spaced 130... doesn't make sense why a surly-surly setup wouldn't work, but...

Your dropouts are 120mm - 130, 135 is for mtb or odd spaced frames. You could cold set your frame but if you ever decided to switch back to a normal hub you'd have to get spacers to make up the 10mm difference on each side or get some 130mm Phils. ;)

In the end I'd skip it though.

edit: however, the price is nice.

Do y'all think these wheels will fit on my steamroller?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/68756091.html
I think my dropouts are 120's (it's the grey one) but I think this hub is spaced 130... doesn't make sense why a surly-surly setup wouldn't work, but...

That's funny, I just replied to your email about them. Don't cold set; save for the Phils you want. And I'm the one selling the wheels!

to sleep, perchance to dream...

campagnolo record high flange track hubset laced to fiamme red label tubulars...but wake me before i tie and solder the spokes, please.