Foo - Area 51 uncovered by Google maps...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22558

Very interesting. I can see the US Gov't shutting this down fast!

URL invalid?

How do you get google maps to "reveal" area 51?

OK I suck at this. Try:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22558

It shows satelite images of area 51 with some interesting structures.

Huh, thats interesting.

coolio!!

Uhm, pictures of the Groom Lake area have been around since the late 60s, and more recent higher-res images were taken in the late 90s by the Ikonos satellite.
These images have not been restricted in any way, suggesting it's not a big deal anymore. Any secret hardware will be indoors anyway when low-orbit satellites are overhead.

Go here for good pics and resources:
http://www.fas.org/irp/overhead/groom.htm

Here's a question: Why doesn't Google put a scale bar on their maps and satellite images?

If the images are the latest Ikonos ones, they're 1 m/pixel.
I.e, if one image is 1000x1000 pixels, it covers an area of 1x1 km (1 km^2).

This is not news at all.

If the images are the latest Ikonos ones, they're 1 m/pixel.
I.e, if one image is 1000x1000 pixels, it covers an area of 1x1 km (1 km^2).

Right, but some of the "satellite" imagery is at varying resolution.

I would think that a scalebar is a standard on maps.

Ok, I just had a look myself.
The images are quite low-res and heavily compressed (ugly edges).

Wow, that's what you get when a nerd has too much down time eh?

wow, some areas have some sweet satellite quality. I just looked at my uncles yard in California from here. Looked at the beach where I first kissed my wife in La Jolla. Looked at my dad's farm in Kentucky and looked at the switchbacks I rode on a tour in the Sedona, AZ region. Too fun. How have I been unaware of this tool for so long?

Without Area 51, there would be no carbon fiber bicycles...

This is Area 51, some of those craters seem to be from underground nuclear weapons tests: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=groom+lake,nv&ll=37.%20129326,-116.051846&sll=36.518555,-115.561924&spn=0%20.121536,0.170631&sspn=0.127029,0.120678&t=k&hl=en

If you look closely, here are 2 SR-71 blackbirds, badass. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CA+93524&ll=34.95342135429382,-117.88429856300354&spn=0.0056111812591552734,0.009237527847290039&t=k&hl=en/

This is Area 51, some of those craters seem to be from underground nuclear weapons tests: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=groom+lake,nv&ll=37.%20129326,-116.051846&sll=36.518555,-115.561924&spn=0%20.121536,0.170631&sspn=0.127029,0.120678&t=k&hl=en

If you look closely, here are 2 SR-71 blackbirds, badass. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CA+93524&ll=34.95342135429382,-117.88429856300354&spn=0.0056111812591552734,0.009237527847290039&t=k&hl=en/

I spy two SR-71 Blackbirds, long range bomber x5, crapload of cars, fighter jet x25, heilcopters x22, 2 spy planes, and multiple objects that I can't make out.

Thats not bad

I spy two SR-71 Blackbirds, long range bomber x5, crapload of cars, fighter jet x25, heilcopters x22, 2 spy planes, and multiple objects that I can't make out.

Some people say there's what looks like two F-22 raptors parked southwest of the blackbirds.
I'd wet myself if I drove into that facility by accident... that is if I made it in at all.

This is Area 51, some of those craters seem to be from underground nuclear weapons tests: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=groom+lake,nv&ll=37.%20129326,-116.051846&sll=36.518555,-115.561924&spn=0%20.121536,0.170631&sspn=0.127029,0.120678&t=k&hl=en

If you look closely, here are 2 SR-71 blackbirds, badass. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CA+93524&ll=34.95342135429382,-117.88429856300354&spn=0.0056111812591552734,0.009237527847290039&t=k&hl=en/


For something really cool... go north-west, look for the hi-def area of the same color. Find the MASSIVE oval, center and zoom in... What's that, a sceret GM test track? Not a raceway as there's no grandstand.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CA+93524&ll=34.95342135429382,-117.88429856300354&spn=0.0056111812591552734,0.009237527847290039&t=k&hl=en/

Uhm, that's Edwards AFB, not Groom Lake...

And the great oval seems to be a test track.
There's even what looks like a motocross sand track with series of jumps inside the oval, just north of the "admin area" outside.

My guess is it's this:
http://www.death-valley.us/article366.html
If that's the case, then the satellite images must be quite recent!

Fairchild AFB, outside Spokane, WA.
Plenty of B-52s visible.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.6276,-117.6435&spn=0.001,0.001&t=k&hl=en/

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CA+93524&ll=34.95342135429382,-117.88429856300354&spn=0.0056111812591552734,0.009237527847290039&t=k&hl=en/

Uhm, that's Edwards AFB, not Groom Lake...


No, that's not groom lake. The first link is groom lake.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=groom+lake,nv&ll=37.%20129326,-116.051846&sll=36.518555,-115.561924&spn=0%20.121536,0.170631&sspn=0.127029,0.120678&t=k&hl=en

Hence why it says "Groom+lake,nv" right there in the link.

Some people say there's what looks like two F-22 raptors parked southwest of the blackbirds.
I'd wet myself if I drove into that facility by accident... that is if I made it in at all.

You can't even get close enought to consider it an accident. The fences are so far out all you see is vehicles and scary well armed guys if you're near the fence lines. Flew by the area on the Harley a few years back. Didn't even think about stopping. Mostly you'll see what look to be regular fencing with Government property signs on them. We did have two planes come over the mountains and run parrellel with the highway for a while but that's common all through Nevada, Utah and Arizona anyway. Unless you're dumb enough to get near the fence. Things (cameras?) start moving and you may get a visit. We only stopped in the little crappy towns near by to gas up the Hogs. I'd give me right arm (OK maybe left) to get a full hands on tour of that place. That would be my only incentive to run for President someday. :eek:

Edwards AFB doesn't seem to be that secret.
A friend of mine in Colorado got a short tour of some facilities late last year.
And he's just an ordinary guy in his early 20s.
I think he got to know someone there when he was looking for info regarding the XB-70 project.

I was actually just thinking that would be a great campaign platform, "Vote for me and I'll tell you everything what's inside Area 51 and who shot JFK!"

For something really cool... go north-west, look for the hi-def area of the same color. Find the MASSIVE oval, center and zoom in... What's that, a sceret GM test track? Not a raceway as there's no grandstand.

Holy moley.. that looks like a nascar oval with a road track in the center along with a motocross track.

Holy moley.. that looks like a nascar oval with a road track in the center along with a motocross track.

Aliens invented Moto cross.

Ehm, no...

First of all, the oval is north of Edwards AFB in California, not Groom Lake in Nevada.
And second, it's outside the Edwards area, so it doesn't belong to the base.
And third, I've already linked to a text that I think explains what the oval track is - a Hyundai test track. No aliens, unless they're aliens from Korea... :)

Ehm, no...

First of all, the oval is north of Edwards AFB in California, not Groom Lake in Nevada.


Ehm... I don't know why you keep thinking we're confusing the two... but ok...

I keep thinking that because you're mixing in the whole UFO/alien lore.
That's something people in general associate with Groom Lake/Area 51, not Edwards AFB.

I keep thinking that because you're mixing in the whole UFO/alien lore.


Oh boy, I think you're the one who's confused. I'm not mixing anything with UFO's. In fact, I didn't once mention UFO's or aliens. You're either delusional or you need to learn to read my posts.

Sorry man, no need to get hostile!
I used "you" in an imprecise way.
If you read lunchbox's post, you'll see the word "aliens".
That's what I meant... :)

The dead aliens are stored at groom lake. The live ones.. they're probably all over the place.

Ehm, no...

First of all, the oval is north of Edwards AFB in California, not Groom Lake in Nevada.
And second, it's outside the Edwards area, so it doesn't belong to the base.
And third, I've already linked to a text that I think explains what the oval track is - a Hyundai test track. No aliens, unless they're aliens from Korea... :)

Yes korean aliens

Ah, yes... :p

That reminds me of this episode of the simpsons where they raided the comic book guy's basement and found all these alien autopsy videos along with an even more disturbing "illegal alien autopsy" video...

Hahaha!

Fairchild AFB, outside Spokane, WA.
Plenty of B-52s visible.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.6276,-117.6435&spn=0.001,0.001&t=k&hl=en/

Nice job spotting those, but I'm afraid they're actually KC-135's of the 92nd Air Refueling Wing. Those arranged north-south look funny due to foreshortening. To see a lot of B-52's, check out this 1992 photo (http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&X=2581&Y=17786&Z=12&W=2&ref=F|B-52+Aircraft%2c+Davis-Monthan+AFB%2c+Tucson%2c+Arizona) of Davis-Monthman AFB on terraserver. Newer USGS photos show most of those have since been recycled.

Looking around the photo with the two SR-71's, I'm pretty sure I saw one F-22, but the plane parked nearest to it looked like an F-15. I understand most of the currently in-service F-22's are stationed in Florida. I'll have to see if I can find them.

Nice job spotting those, but I'm afraid they're actually KC-135's of the 92nd Air Refueling Wing. Those arranged north-south look funny due to foreshortening. To see a lot of B-52's, check out this 1992 photo (http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&X=2581&Y=17786&Z=12&W=2&ref=F|B-52+Aircraft%2c+Davis-Monthan+AFB%2c+Tucson%2c+Arizona) of Davis-Monthman AFB on terraserver. Newer USGS photos show most of those have since been recycled.

Looking around the photo with the two SR-71's, I'm pretty sure I saw one F-22, but the plane parked nearest to it looked like an F-15. I understand most of the currently in-service F-22's are stationed in Florida. I'll have to see if I can find them.

Ah yes, you're right. :o
I never looked closely, I just assumed they were B-52s since the base has (used to have?) them.
Blushing now... :D

THIS is a lot of planes. I'm sure you can find some B-52's in there.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.153935,-110.832481&spn=0.021672,0.031672&t=k&hl=en

All you folks having fun with google maps should check out this (http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/). It's not quite the resolution of google maps, but trust me, you won't mind.

Hey look. It's Legoland!

THIS is a lot of planes. I'm sure you can find some B-52's in there.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.153935,-110.832481&spn=0.021672,0.031672&t=k&hl=en

Neat. That's actually the a new picture of Davis-Monthman AFB. I posted a link to a 1992 photo above. Indeed there are quite a few B-52's, but not nearly as many as 10 years before and a lot of the remaining ones are in various stages of disassembly. There's a little bit of nearly everything else there, too.

Neat. That's actually the a new picture of Davis-Monthman AFB. I posted a link to a 1992 photo above. Indeed there are quite a few B-52's, but not nearly as many as 10 years before and a lot of the remaining ones are in various stages of disassembly. There's a little bit of nearly everything else there, too.

Yikes, I missed the like on your prev post. That place is crawling with old planes.
I think there was some disarmament treaty that made them destroy it out in public so foreign satellite could see that they really destroyed the planes. Could be wrong about that one.

Highway planning gone amok.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.744987,-84.390166&spn=0.007607,0.008680&t=k&hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=atlanta&ll=33.891996,-84.258463&spn=0.007607,0.008680&t=k&hl=en

Those highway pictures are ridiculous. The token civil engineer in the lab loved 'em.

I don't know the story on the B-52's. I knew they retired a ton of them after the breakup of the USSR because they weren't needed. I assumed this was just recycling to get a little bit of money back on them. The return isn't bad. I've helped dismantle trailer homes and recycle the aluminum in those. Usually get about $200. You multiply $0.25/lb by 150000 lbs per plane and you get a lot of money.

Looks like there are a few F-16's and F-18's as well.