Advocacy & Safety - Cyclist Rear-Ended, Killed

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When you read this article
http://www.capegazette.com/storiescurrent/0405/accidentclaimscyclist042905.html
the whole emphasis is on educating cyclists to ride safer.
"Police said {the motorist, Megan Seek, age 18** Seek did not see the bicycle. The front of the Skylark struck the rear of the bicycle, ejecting Reteruk who struck the hood and windshield of Seek’s car."
We don't know all the facts BUT why is it if a car rear-ends another car, the presumption of guilt is on the rear vehicle, BUT when a car rear-ends a bicycle, there is no presumption of guilt on the car?
moxfyre
05-04-05, 11:04 AM
We don't know all the facts BUT why is it if a car rear-ends another car, the presumption of guilt is on the rear vehicle, BUT when a car rear-ends a bicycle, there is no presumption of guilt on the car?
Yeah, it's ******** the way they act as if the cyclist must have been doing something wrong. The article seems to have made no attempt to establish whether the cyclist was in fact riding safely. Was she using lights?? It doesn't even say.
galen_52657
05-04-05, 11:13 AM
I have riden my bike along that stretch of Rt 1. It is strip-mall/outlet hell. Six lanes of traffic plus turn lanes. All of the MD/Del resorts have a ton of young Eastern Block Euro workers.
The article does not mention if the cyclist had lights or was highly visible. It could be that the driver was absolved of blame because the cyclist was not visible. Even in automobile rear-endings, there are mitigating circumstances. Also, the article does not state that the driver was not presumed to be at fault. It only stated that the police said the driver did not see the cyclist.
noisebeam
05-04-05, 11:16 AM
Yeah, it's ******** the way they act as if the cyclist must have been doing something wrong. The article seems to have made no attempt to establish whether the cyclist was in fact riding safely. Was she using lights?? It doesn't even say.
But lots on inappropriate innuedeo about all these other guest worker cyclists who don't follow the rules, no lights, wrong way. Sets the stage, the presumption that she must have been doing something wrong. Also the comment about her not wearing a helmet. Since when did helmets stop cars from rear ending cyclists?
Were there skid marks? A driver in a car with headlights can see something far enough in front of them lit up or not to hit the brakes and skid.
A very sad event.
Al
moxfyre
05-04-05, 11:18 AM
But lots on inappropriate innuedeo about all these other guest worker cyclists who don't follow the rules, no lights, wrong way. Sets the stage, the presumption that she must have been doing something wrong. Also the comment about her not wearing a helmet. Since when did helmets stop cars from rear ending cyclists?
Were there skid marks? A driver in a car with headlights can see something far enough in front of them lit up or not to hit the brakes and skid.
A very sad event.
Al
All good points.
I think they just mentioned the helmet part because, had she been wearing one, it could have saved her life (then again, maybe not in this case).
The article says she was "rear-ended" but it sounds more like she was basically sideswiped as the driver moved right. Not altogether clear to me.
The article does not mention if the cyclist had lights or was highly visible. It could be that the driver was absolved of blame because the cyclist was not visible. Even in automobile rear-endings, there are mitigating circumstances. Also, the article does not state that the driver was not presumed to be at fault. It only stated that the police said the driver did not see the cyclist.
To quote the cycling lawyer. When the driver admits to not seeing the cyclist, they are admitting guilt.
But lots on inappropriate innuedeo about all these other guest worker cyclists who don't follow the rules, no lights, wrong way. Sets the stage, the presumption that she must have been doing something wrong. Also the comment about her not wearing a helmet. Since when did helmets stop cars from rear ending cyclists?
Wait. Hold on. I perceived the intent of the original post to criticise the law or rather interpretation of the law. Personally, I don't think there was enough information given to criticise. It's also obvious that the media is fairly clueless and somewhat biased. Which one are we complaining about in this case?
noisebeam
05-04-05, 11:26 AM
Wait. Hold on. I perceived the intent of the original post to criticise the law or rather interpretation of the law. Personally, I don't think there was enough information given to criticise. It's also obvious that the media is fairly clueless and somewhat biased. Which one are we complaining about in this case?
Both need criticism. I was criticising the media in my post.
Al
The article does not mention if the cyclist had lights or was highly visible. It could be that the driver was absolved of blame because the cyclist was not visible. Even in automobile rear-endings, there are mitigating circumstances. Also, the article does not state that the driver was not presumed to be at fault. It only stated that the police said the driver did not see the cyclist.
Well, I said we don't have all the facts. However, this article "smells" like the usual media-and-law enforcement bias against finding motorists at fault when there is a collision with a cyclist. It's not true of all reporters and all officers, of course, but we've all seen plenty of examples to know it remains a national problem.
You say that the driver was absolved because the cyclist was not visible. Visibility is not a legal requirement. Requirements differ from state to state, but having an operational headlight and a rear reflector are generally required, but this is not the same as being visible.
It is possible the cyclist was at fault. If she was next to the curb and proceeded straight from a right turn only lane and the car right-hooked her, then of course the motorist would be blameless.
You say that the driver was absolved because the cyclist was not visible.
Actually, I said "could be". I don't think we can say if she was charged with anything or not since the article is unclear about that. And I also don't believe that the cyclist not being visible is immediate grounds for dismissal of guilt either. There are so many things that were not said in that article that I am not willing to draw much conclusions. The one thing I think we can gather from it however is that the road layout and travel conditions where the collision occurred is quite treacherous. This is based more on testimony from other cyclists and frequent travellers along that route than from the actual details (or rather lack thereof) of the rear-ending.
John Ridley
05-04-05, 01:48 PM
I thought the article was pretty well balanced. Really sounds to me like the cyclist had no lights. I'm sorry, but I can't blame the motorist if that's the case, and I'm not going to presume otherwise unless specifically stated, because I see so few bikes properly lighted (if at all) even though that's the law here in MI. I'm sure it's the same elsewhere.
noisebeam
05-04-05, 01:52 PM
I thought the article was pretty well balanced. Really sounds to me like the cyclist had no lights. I'm sorry, but I can't blame the motorist if that's the case, and I'm not going to presume otherwise unless specifically stated, because I see so few bikes properly lighted (if at all) even though that's the law here in MI. I'm sure it's the same elsewhere.
What about reflectors, what about not black clothing?
I often encounter people on bikes with no lighting, dark clothes, no or minimal reflectors, but I still see them well before I would have hit them. Car headlights are very bright and have a good reach and as soon as someone sees a cycist in path, they should be hitting brakes hard, which usually results in a skid mark, even if the cyclist is hit.
Since we are all only speculating, I'd say it is just as likely that the driver wasn't paying attention as it is that the cyclist did not have lights or reflectors.
Al
It was probably both their faults. But still... a fellow cyclist is down. That's sad. :(
Koffee
It was probably both their faults. But still... a fellow cyclist is down. That's sad. :(
Agreed. A fellow human being is no longer with us. That's sad.
I have riden my bike along that stretch of Rt 1. It is strip-mall/outlet hell. Six lanes of traffic plus turn lanes. All of the MD/Del resorts have a ton of young Eastern Block Euro workers.
Not pointing any fingers and purely out of curiosity would riding in the 2nd lane from the right be any safer, i.e., not the turning lane thus avoiding right turning traffic?
Not pointing any fingers and purely out of curiosity would riding in the 2nd lane from the right be any safer, i.e., not the turning lane thus avoiding right turning traffic?
If it's a typical right turning lane then the lane pretty much appears off to the right. Vehicles will suddenly come out of the now 2nd. lane (rightmost through-lane) and enter the turning lane. I imagine a cyclist in the right turning lane that was not adequitely lit could appear to "suddenly come out of nowhere" as the car entered the turn lane. Depending on the speed, there might not have been enough time or space to stop in order to avoid a collision. Now it is unclear from the report and we will probably never know if the cyclist meant to actually turn right or go straight on through. I have seen many inexperienced cyclist treat the right turn lane as a shoulder and go straight on through. As such, they're usually in the middle of the lane. If I'm going straight then I will position myself to the right of the rightmost through lane... typically a half handlebar's width left of the rightmost edge of that lane. This gives vehicles wanting to turn right room to my right and signals to vehicles in the through lane that I'm intending to go straight. I am also legally in the proper lane. I also make it a point to make hand motions (back and forth sweep) and if it's at night, I will have on reflective and active lighting (blinkie armband or something similar) to attract their attention and make known I'm there and my intentions.
If however I was in the process of turning right, depending on the shoulder which from accounts in this case seems to be very minimal, I would stay to the right of the right turn lane (again around half a handlebar's width left of the rightmost edge given reasonable road conditions) thus giving room for right-turning cars to pass to my left. Now I'm not saying that the cyclist who was killed was doing something wrong... again, we don't have enough information to conclude anything. Nor do we know if doing anything differently would have saved her either.
jakemoffatt
05-04-05, 04:36 PM
Not pointing any fingers and purely out of curiosity would riding in the 2nd lane from the right be any safer, i.e., not the turning lane thus avoiding right turning traffic?
Sometimes yes and sometimes no. It depends on the intersection. When you are in the position to make that decision you basically have two choices:
Cross the intersection from the 2nd lane from the right (i.e. the straight lane).
Move onto the sidewalk and walk your bike across the crosswalk like a pedestrian.
Its a bad idea to go straight from the inside of a right turn lane. If you are turning right (presumably into another bike-lane) then get into the inside of the lane and turn. If you are going straight in ANY case you should be on the outside of whatever lane is turning, so you don't get clipped/run over.
Don't ever forget that if you feel safer, you can use the sidewalks and other pedestrian facilities if you walk your bike (most cities disallow sidewalk riding).
And remember, the more eye-contact you have with others on the road the better. Gesture to indicate your intent and there should be no confusion.
Look up the book The art of urban cycling. It is full of scenarios such as this one and gives good advice based on years of experience.
Khuon, JakeM thanks for the advice. I pretty much do the VC thing here in the UK.
If faced with a similar situation, i.e., wide, multi lane road with turning lane, I generally ride in the centre of the lane adjacent to it. Seems safer(more visible) and there's less chance of a cager overtaking to turn immediately afterward(which matches your advise).
Anyway, I hoped Galen would give more detail on the road traffic volume/speed and also road condition/markings.
What about reflectors, what about not black clothing?
I often encounter people on bikes with no lighting, dark clothes, no or minimal reflectors, but I still see them well before I would have hit them. Car headlights are very bright and have a good reach and as soon as someone sees a cycist in path, they should be hitting brakes hard, which usually results in a skid mark, even if the cyclist is hit.
Since we are all only speculating, I'd say it is just as likely that the driver wasn't paying attention as it is that the cyclist did not have lights or reflectors.
Al Note also that rear lights are NOT legally required on bicycles in most states, although rear reflectors are. Forester actually suggests that red blinkies attract drunk drivers, although I do use one or two LED blinkies in addition to a rear reflector or two, plus very light-colored clothing.
Allister
05-04-05, 08:32 PM
Isn't relying on skid marks for determining what happened becoming less possible in these days of anti-lock braking systems? Just because there's no skid marks, it doesn't mean the driver wasn't braking. (not talking about this case specifically, just making a general observation)
vrkelley
05-04-05, 08:34 PM
If a $10 light, or lighter clothing, or reflectant could save your life, why wait until there's a law about it?
Here's Delaware State Police's news release. The wording is somewhat different from that of the newspaper --
Delaware State Police are investigating a fatal crash involving a bicycle that occurred last night at approximately 10:05 p.m. on State Route 1 just north of State Route 24.
A 1995 Buick Skylark operated by Megan M. Seek, 18, of Millsboro, was traveling southbound on SR 1 in the right lane. A 10-speed bicycle operated by Katarzyna M. Reteruk, 22, of Poland, was traveling southbound on SR 1 in the right turn lane. Ms. Seek pulled into the right turn lane as she was preparing to turn right onto SR 24 and did not see the bicycle. The front of the Skylark then struck the rear of the bicycle causing Ms. Reteruk to be ejected off of it. Ms. Reteruk struck the hood and windshield of the Skylark before coming to rest in the right lane of SR 1.
Ms. Reteruk, who was not wearing a helmet, was transported to Beebe Medical Center where she was pronounced deceased at 10:36 p.m.
Ms. Seek was not injured in the crash.
Anyone who may have witnessed this crash is asked to call the Delaware State Police Fatal Accident Investigation and Reconstruction Team at (302) 645-8221.
The crash remains under investigation.
Dchiefransom
05-04-05, 09:16 PM
For all we know, the cyclist was next to the right edge of the road, and was hit from behind. She could have been getting ready to turn right at the intersection. I've seen cars overshoot when they change lanes, going right to the edge of the road.
Helmet Head
05-04-05, 11:02 PM
Look up the book The art of urban cycling. It is full of scenarios such as this one and gives good advice based on years of experience.
Mixed in with the "good advice" is quite a bit of questionable advice in Robert Hurst's Urban Cycling. For example, Hurst devotes only a single page to the rather critical topic of left turns, hardly covering anything beyond basically saying they can be difficult to navigate (gee thanks, like I needed a urban cycling book to tell me that), and then spends 2 1/2 pages defending gutter riding, presenting a rather pathetic argument despite all that effort in my view. Much of it reads like he's got a personal ax to grind with Forester. I suspect he's gotten into it with Forester and/or vehicular cycling advocates, including about the topic of gutter riding, and felt compelled to defend his (weak) positions in his book. Anyway, that's my take on it.
Much better books on traffic cycling include:
Effective Cycling by John Forester. Some sections are flawed, dated and rambling, but the stuff on traffic cycling is unsurpassed.
Cyclecraft by John Franklin. Arguably as good as Forester. Concept of primary riding position and secondary primary position is excellent. Which reminds me of another problem I had with Hurst. He uses the term default position to mean essentially the same thing as Franklin's primary riding position, but while Franklin uses it and refers to it consistently in all of the various traffic situations he writes about, Hurst only refers to his default position a few times, and misses many opportunities to use it.
Streetsmarts by John S. Allen, which you can download for free from http://www.bikexprt.com. Not my favorite, because it's mostly just the nuts and bolts without explaining much of the why's, but the advice is correct, and the price is right.
You will not find Forester, Franklin or Allen recommending or defending gutter riding or curb riding like Hurst does, that's for sure.
The methods Forester, Franklin and Allen promote are logical and consistent. Hurst's approach is a hodgepodge of inconsistent advice, some of which is loosely connected through his flawed concept of maximizing buffer space.
One last example. Imagine that you're approaching an intersection on a simple roadway (no extra lanes; cross street has stop signs, not yours) where you need to go straight. On the cross street there is a car (A) approaching from the right. On your street there is a car (B) approaching the same intersection from the other direction that may be turning left. Where do you ride?
According to Forester, Franklin and Allen you should use the "primary riding position"... the center of the main traffic lane, because your destination is straight ahead (if going right, it should be to the right, if going left, to the left) and proceed with reasonable care, as always.
According to Hurst, because of car (A) you should keep left; but because of car (B) you should keep right. He only talks about the individual cases, never considering that his advice is impossible to follow when both cases occur simultaneously. The three Johns on the other hand, recommend approaching intersections based on your destination, independent of other traffic. That's one reason their advice is consistent. Following it also makes the cyclist more predictable than does Hurst, who admits predictability is not even an important goal for him, since predictability depends on being seen, and his advice tends to assume you will not be seen.
I will say that Hurst's stuff on personal responsibility is outstanding, and the book is worth buying just for that. But in terms of specific advice on how to handle traffic, it's a mixed bag.
Serge
ivan_yulaev
05-05-05, 12:04 AM
To quote the cycling lawyer. When the driver admits to not seeing the cyclist, they are admitting guilt.
"I didn't see him" is not a very good excuse.
From the Wilmington News Journal (http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2005/05/01taskforcesdonta.html):
"The third [solution], set up by Rep. Joe Booth, R-Georgetown, made the difference - using the bus-bike lane of Del. 1 as a third lane near the often-clogged intersection with Del. 24." (4th paragraph)
This is exactly the same area where Katarzyna Reteruk was killed. Lights, helmets and inattentive driving/bicycling probably all played a role in the crash, but the biggest issue is the removal of a bike lane in a heavily-congested section of highway that is frequently travelled by those not familiar with the area.
Is "improved" traffic flow in a tourist area worth the cost of a life?
noisebeam
05-05-05, 08:55 AM
Isn't relying on skid marks for determining what happened becoming less possible in these days of anti-lock braking systems? Just because there's no skid marks, it doesn't mean the driver wasn't braking. (not talking about this case specifically, just making a general observation)
It is more difficult, but 'shadow' marks are often left from the brakes pulsing when they lock up in micro bursts.
Al
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